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the powers of the Vipera Berus are good hearing, keen sense of smell and of course the powerful venom it uses for hunting and defence.
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There are 3 different kinds of snakes in Finland, of which only one is mildly poisonous (the very one I captured above)
Hmm... something does not quite add up here. If only I could put my finger on it...
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Hmm... something does not quite add up here. If only I could put my finger on it...
The use of powerful here is subjective. It's pretty mild when adminstred to a huge[1] animal like the "third chimp", yours truly, but very effective on the intended prey of the viper


[1] Contrary to what some people mistakenly believe humans are among the top fraction of percentile of animal size, there are just a handful of species that are larger in mass compared to the tens of thousands that are way teenier... go figure?
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Originally Posted by juiceme View Post
They are actually quite common here. There are 3 different kinds of snakes in Finland, of which only one is mildly poisonous (the very one I captured above)
How close did you get?
Looks like ~1m, while the snake seems to have noticed you and is moving toward you. I don't think I'd've had the guts to do take that picture.

The other two are much rarer, I have only ever seen each of the non-poisonous snakes once in the wild.
Is rantakäärme (beach snake) one of them? I'm pretty sure we have seen them a few times in Helsinki/Lauttasaari, both in the water and on the beach.
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How close did you get?
Looks like ~1m, while the snake seems to have noticed you and is moving toward you. I don't think I'd've had the guts to do take that picture.
I went down on my knees and maybe about 70cm towards the snake. (this variety by the way is called "Kyy" in Finnish)

It would have been easier but I was on my daily run and I had my dog with me which I held by a very short leash behind my back with one hand while trying to get a good shot with the other hand. All the while Dora the dog was trying to nose up closer to the snake barking... difficult. I think the poor viper was really disturbed by us and I tried to make it quick in order not to shock her too much.

Kyys are really very peaceful and nice animals, so I had no need to fear her really... if one bites you it sure stings like hell but is no concern really; last summer I was stung by a wasp in my eye and boy that one hurt for a long time!


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Is rantakäärme (beach snake) one of them? I'm pretty sure we have seen them a few times in Helsinki/Lauttasaari, both in the water and on the beach.
Yes, the other varieties are Rantakäärme and Tarhakäärme; both are more rare than Kyykäärme and non-poisonous. Very easy to tell apart from each other too, however many people don't know the difference but try to kill "the horrible snakes".
In reality all snakes are protected and should not be harrassed but people just fear them out of no reason, some even dislike Sisilisko which are really beautiful small lizards.
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Originally Posted by juiceme View Post
Yes, the other varieties are Rantakäärme and Tarhakäärme; both are more rare than Kyykäärme and non-poisonous. Very easy to tell apart from each other too, however many people don't know the difference but try to kill "the horrible snakes".
In reality all snakes are protected and should not be harrassed but people just fear them out of no reason, some even dislike Sisilisko which are really beautiful small lizards.
Tarhakäärme is another name for rantakäärme, usually easy to recognise from the yellow marks at the neck. While adders can have a varying colouring with a clear zigzag pattern to completely black. They can also often be seen swimming.
The third one is kangaskäärme, who only live in Ahvenanmaa/Åland, not in mainland Finland.
And some might think that vaskitsa or copper snake (slowworm) is a snake because it looks like one, but it's a lizard without legs.
 

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Tarhakäärme is another name for rantakäärme, usually easy to recognise from the yellow marks at the neck. While adders can have a varying colouring with a clear zigzag pattern to completely black. They can also often be seen swimming.
The third one is kangaskäärme, who only live in Ahvenanmaa/Åland, not in mainland Finland.
And some might think that vaskitsa or copper snake (slowworm) is a snake because it looks like one, but it's a lizard without legs.
Thanks for correcting me!

I mis-remembered the Kangaskäärme, mainly as it is so rare and does not live on mainland at all. Now as I checked it, indeed Rantakäärme used to be called Tarhakäärme but in fact they are the same species.

Really nice article in wikipedia I ran across, in the olden times in Finland people used to have tame snakes of the Tarhakäärme variety on farms, to keep the rodents away. They were fed and cared for and even lived in animal shelters and inside farmhouses!
translation of the article
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Originally Posted by juiceme View Post
The use of powerful here is subjective. It's pretty mild when adminstred to a huge[1] animal like the "third chimp", yours truly, but very effective on the intended prey of the viper


[1] Contrary to what some people mistakenly believe humans are among the top fraction of percentile of animal size, there are just a handful of species that are larger in mass compared to the tens of thousands that are way teenier... go figure?
As a child, I always thought that viper bite would be roughly the same as bee sting. Nowadays I work as an nurse on ICU, and I have seen some patients due to viper bites. While it really is really uncommon to die because of viper bite, it still can cause massive swelling, moderate pain and even symptoms of hypovolemic shock which sometimes need ICU treatment. So I have been quite surprised on how serious it may be.
 

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