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2018-04-25
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#22
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Originally Posted by kinggo
Right here, it's been there for about two years now.
Ah..... great. So, where is the Signal app for sailfish then?
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2018-04-25
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#23
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What's the problem with Telegram? As far as I know, their API is free to use. And the Sailfish client (Sailorgram) works altho the original developer has stopped developing it.
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2018-04-25
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#24
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Originally Posted by fontaine
The server side code isn't free and the encryption protocol is pure nonsense (and I think conversations aren't even encrypted by default). They've also managed to set up their own version of the cryptocoin scam (there's that word again!), raking in more than 1700000000 USD for a few canisters of hot air.
What's the problem with Telegram? As far as I know, their API is free to use. And the Sailfish client (Sailorgram) works altho the original developer has stopped developing it.
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2018-04-25
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#25
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Originally Posted by nthn
Could you tell a bit more about it? Source pls?
The server side code isn't free and the encryption protocol is pure nonsense (and I think conversations aren't even encrypted by default). They've also managed to set up their own version of the cryptocoin scam (there's that word again!), raking in more than 1700000000 USD for a few canisters of hot air.
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2018-04-25
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#26
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Originally Posted by explit
Lack of server source code: https://telegram.org/apps#source-code
Could you tell a bit more about it? Source pls?
Lack of security: https://security.stackexchange.com/q...re/49802#49802
Turns out indeed nothing is ever end-to-end-encrypted on Telegram by default, which is made exponentially worse by the fact that they've now effectively given the Russian government backdoor access to everything: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ncryption-keys
Coins and money: https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/1/17...tocurrency-ton
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2018-04-25
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#27
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They didn't give any keys. That's why they're being blocked right now in Russia.
PS I don't think Telegram is secure, as well as whatsapp/viber/signal/you name it. If an app asks for your phone number - it is not secure, no matter what. It means they want money, one way or another.
PS I don't think Telegram is secure, as well as whatsapp/viber/signal/you name it. If an app asks for your phone number - it is not secure, no matter what. It means they want money, one way or another.
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2018-04-26
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Originally Posted by lantern
Let me guess, you use exclusively phone calls, SMS and mails to communicate... Oh so do I by the way haha ;-p
They didn't give any keys. That's why they're being blocked right now in Russia.
PS I don't think Telegram is secure, as well as whatsapp/viber/signal/you name it. If an app asks for your phone number - it is not secure, no matter what. It means they want money, one way or another.
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2018-04-26
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#29
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Originally Posted by maximilian1st
I use jabber for IM.
Let me guess, you use exclusively phone calls, SMS and mails to communicate... Oh so do I by the way haha ;-p
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2018-04-28
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#30
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I never said that Telegram is secure. For really confidential communication i would use encrypted emails, xmpp etc.
But: With Telegram I can choose which client i can use. Whatsapp has blocked our Harmattan / Sailfish / Maemo clients every time, they banned me for using non-conform client. So this is no go for me.
Telegram might be a bad, insecure messenger, but they are much more sympathic to me, than WA. And the fact, that Roskomnadzor banned them in RUS, makes them one more time sympathic to me
But: With Telegram I can choose which client i can use. Whatsapp has blocked our Harmattan / Sailfish / Maemo clients every time, they banned me for using non-conform client. So this is no go for me.
Telegram might be a bad, insecure messenger, but they are much more sympathic to me, than WA. And the fact, that Roskomnadzor banned them in RUS, makes them one more time sympathic to me
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The way peole communicate has changed. A lot. And the lack of modern ways of communication on sailfish is a BIG problem when it comes to new users. The same way we laughed to iphone users way back when they couldn't send files over BT they can laugh now and tell us to use mail for chatting.
Let me put it this way, I don't like SUVs (unlike my wife) but in the end every manufacturer gave in and they have at least one model because market want StupidUselessVehicles.