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2007-11-20
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Originally Posted by ArnimS
Couldn't agree more. Only people with with a certain type of character go beyond the proof-of-concept and this is applicable to all fields and not only software. The only difference I see it's instead of been forgotten in someone's drawer you come across it with a simple search.
Re: PIM It can be difficult to get up-and-running to contribute to an existing project. For many independent developers, it is easier to start something from scratch.
Unfortunately such projects rarely get finished or even mostly-finished or even useful. As such I also encourage anyone interested in developing PIM-functionality to learn about the existing options and seriously consider contributing to their development.
Originally Posted by ArnimS
Again YES, but sometimes its more than those chain letters that a friend of yours sent you. It is the 'big' boss or worse a customer that you are chasing for some time now..
Re: micro$oft file formats I take the hard-line approach and insist that contacts send me documents in open formats. Like the cleaning lady says, "I'm sorry, I don't do windows."
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2007-11-20
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Spreadsheets - Gnumeric works great, I use it frequently. AbiWord - New version on the way. Presentations - ? There was at one time a plugin for Evince on the desktop that permitted it to view PPT files, thought I don't know its dependencies.
Contacts/Calendar/Todo: it's a solved problem, including synchronization: http://cleardefinition.com/page/Sync...d_GPE_on_N800/ If you just want to use it on the tablet, you just need to get GPE. The rest is if you want to synchronize it with a Linux desktop program.
Hope this helps! You might also want to search the forums for your needs, as I've posted these links before and such. Lots of knowledge already recorded in the forum.
Contacts/Calendar/Todo: it's a solved problem, including synchronization: http://cleardefinition.com/page/Sync...d_GPE_on_N800/ If you just want to use it on the tablet, you just need to get GPE. The rest is if you want to synchronize it with a Linux desktop program.
Hope this helps! You might also want to search the forums for your needs, as I've posted these links before and such. Lots of knowledge already recorded in the forum.
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AbiWord Dev, N800 user
Nokia internet tablet docs: http://www.cleardefinition.com
AbiWord on Maemo beta now available - contact me to help fix bugs!
Ryan
AbiWord Dev, N800 user
Nokia internet tablet docs: http://www.cleardefinition.com
AbiWord on Maemo beta now available - contact me to help fix bugs!
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2007-11-20
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I would say that for the general tablet user, stick to applications you can find through http://www.gronmayer.com/n800/repos/ and install them through the application manager (as will happen if you click on the right places there. And after that visit you will have more applications to choose from in the application manager listing.) This is an almost 100% problem free way of installing applications.
If you really want to install something not already in a repository, then look for *_armel.deb files. They can be installed with the application manager too, but you may easily run into a problem where there are unmet dependencies, which means that you have to start hunting those down. Personally I only in rare cases bother with this, even though I'm very familiar with both Linux and the Debian package format.
If you can't find a .deb, in 99.9% of the cases you shouldn't go there. In particular, .tar.gz files are gzip-compressed tape archive files, and they almost always contain source code, not an installable application. Not what you want, unless you're a developer. The exception is certain special projects like Penguinbait's KDE environments, but in those cases there are good detailied instructions, and usually right there in the ITT thread where the project was announced.
Now please go read the first paragraph again..
Last edited by TA-t3; 2007-11-20 at 11:18. Reason: boldify
If you really want to install something not already in a repository, then look for *_armel.deb files. They can be installed with the application manager too, but you may easily run into a problem where there are unmet dependencies, which means that you have to start hunting those down. Personally I only in rare cases bother with this, even though I'm very familiar with both Linux and the Debian package format.
If you can't find a .deb, in 99.9% of the cases you shouldn't go there. In particular, .tar.gz files are gzip-compressed tape archive files, and they almost always contain source code, not an installable application. Not what you want, unless you're a developer. The exception is certain special projects like Penguinbait's KDE environments, but in those cases there are good detailied instructions, and usually right there in the ITT thread where the project was announced.
Now please go read the first paragraph again..
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2007-11-20
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Spreadsheets - Gnumeric works great, I use it frequently.
Contacts/Calendar/Todo: it's a solved problem, including synchronization: http://cleardefinition.com/page/Sync...d_GPE_on_N800/
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2007-11-20
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I would second the hopes and wishes of the original poster. I've looked for apps on Maemo and have been less than impressed.
I am a power user of PDA's but have no, zero, zilch interest in programming or learning code. I don't need another hobby. I don't mind PAYING for decent apps, as I've spent HUNDREDS on Palm and WinMobile apps over the past 10 years.
I am not interested in the Nokia because it's Linux. I'm not trying to make a political statement against M$. I'm interested in the N810 strictly because of the hardware. I just want apps that work so I can get work done. I like what I se so far, and was especially piqued by Garnet VM, or else I wouldn't be posting here.
I would GLADLY pay Dataviz for another copy of Docs2Go. I'm used to having to pay for new software when switching platforms.
I am a power user of PDA's but have no, zero, zilch interest in programming or learning code. I don't need another hobby. I don't mind PAYING for decent apps, as I've spent HUNDREDS on Palm and WinMobile apps over the past 10 years.
I am not interested in the Nokia because it's Linux. I'm not trying to make a political statement against M$. I'm interested in the N810 strictly because of the hardware. I just want apps that work so I can get work done. I like what I se so far, and was especially piqued by Garnet VM, or else I wouldn't be posting here.
I would GLADLY pay Dataviz for another copy of Docs2Go. I'm used to having to pay for new software when switching platforms.
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2007-11-21
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@ "Almost there!" (Monte Christo, Count of)
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Originally Posted by treynolds
Sadly, it appears interest from the "traditional" (read: Palm, Symbian and Wince oriented) developing houses for the Nokia Internet Tablet platform is close to non-existent.
I would second the hopes and wishes of the original poster. I've looked for apps on Maemo and have been less than impressed.
I am a power user of PDA's but have no, zero, zilch interest in programming or learning code. I don't need another hobby. I don't mind PAYING for decent apps, as I've spent HUNDREDS on Palm and WinMobile apps over the past 10 years.
I am not interested in the Nokia because it's Linux. I'm not trying to make a political statement against M$. I'm interested in the N810 strictly because of the hardware. I just want apps that work so I can get work done. I like what I se so far, and was especially piqued by Garnet VM, or else I wouldn't be posting here.
I would GLADLY pay Dataviz for another copy of Docs2Go. I'm used to having to pay for new software when switching platforms.
One example: I, and others, have asked, pleaded and threatened Softmaker to port their Textmaker/Planmaker combo to Maemo (it's a good, fast and feature-rich wordprocessor/spreadsheet duo for a reasonable price). I don't know about the others, but I received a non-ambiguous "Nuts!" (obviously translated into non-offensive marketingspeak) as reply.
The few commercial offerings I've come across, like "that other" PIM suite, were basically crap. I'm still wondering what the cause for this absence is: Fear of Open Source? Ignorance of the viability of commercial software on Linux platforms? Threats from Microsoft? (don't laugh; they did it before!) Absense of actual sales figures?
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2007-11-21
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I think that in many aspects, our future regarding apps. depends on the N810 sales projection...is all about market.
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2007-11-21
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My biiig sorry to megabyte...I installed the GPE suite and now is working, and is very nice too....as for the sync, forget about it! ThaNKs!!
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2007-11-22
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Everybody has the same complaints when the get a N series tablet: Where's the office software, and where's the PIM software? It's the standard cliche of the internet tablet world.
The thing is, why aren't the guys behind Maemo listening? Would it help if we got Walk Mossberg to mention this in one of his reviews?
The thing is, why aren't the guys behind Maemo listening? Would it help if we got Walk Mossberg to mention this in one of his reviews?
Unfortunately such projects rarely get finished or even mostly-finished or even useful. As such I also encourage anyone interested in developing PIM-functionality to learn about the existing options and seriously consider contributing to their development.
Re: micro$oft file formats I take the hard-line approach and insist that contacts send me documents in open formats. Like the cleaning lady says, "I'm sorry, I don't do windows."