Johnkzin-

Let me know how the N810 works for you because I am in exactly the same boat. I am very concerned about the location of the navigation rockers requiring that the keyboard be open just to do basic activities (at least that is what the pictures look like).

Cheers,
Fred

Fred: I'm similarly concerned about the button layout on the N810. I'll post something once I've been using it for a bit. (it hasn't arrived yet)

For the Freedom mini, I've got one 10-letter word:

Suuuuuucks!

It's not a bad keyboard layout, especially once you dick around with xmodmap to make it truly sing, but the big selling point to it is that lovely little clip that locked onto my 770 and felt almost like it was meant to be.

Then the clip broke, right at the hinge.

Then Freedom's official support stance came up. Since the new Slim Keypad is *almost* out, they're not supporting the Mini Keyboard. Maybe you'll have better luck with the Targus version, I don't know. Targus does have near-legendary support, after all. As far as I'm concerned, however, Freedom could release a pill that, once ingested, gives me the ability to form hard-light objects with Bluetooth HID profiles, giving me a full-sized keyboard floating right in front of me with tactile feedback and such, and I *still* wouldn't buy the damned thing.

Nice enough device, terrible company.

My experiences with them aren't any different.

1) no answer from them, at all, about why I can't get the mini duo to work with the N800. Like I said, it works _fine_ with my Mac (where I don't want/need it), but doesn't work at all with my N800. (keeping in mind that the mini duo supports BOTH HID and SPP modes)

2) no response at all from them at all (not even a "we can't disclose that right now") about when the slim will actually be released, as I kept getting my hopes up about using it with my N800, and then at the start of the last 3 months having my hopes dashed when they'd delay it AGAIN. These people are the epitome of products that slip on delivery deadlines so frequently that the product might as well be vaporware.

3) before I heard how well the iGo/Thinkoutside Stowaway keyboard works with the NITs, my gf askedme what I wanted for my birthday ... so I said the freedom full size folding bluetooth keyboard. She ordered it 2 months ago. 2 of them got lost in shipping to her (UPS does stupid things in Arizona, apparently), so she had them change the delivery address to go direct to me instead of to her ... so she couldn't wrap it for me, but hopefully I'd actually get it this time. 3 weeks later, Freedom still hadn't shipped it to me. She told them to give her money back (she's now going to get me the iGo via Amazon ... she feels bad that she's 2 months late on getting my birthday present to me, but it's really the combined faults of UPS and Freedom).

(just to be fair: the first two problems are entirely the fault of UPS not honoring the "sign for delivery" requirement; it was the 3rd attempt that was Freedom's fault, in that they simply never shipped it to me)


Their devices sound promising, but I honestly can't recommend them on any level. If you need a thumb keyboard, buy an N810. If you want a full size keyboard, buy an iGo. Whatever you do, do NOT buy, nor plan on buying, a Freedom-Input product.

OK, you've convinced me. I guess I am down to two choices...

Frogpad or
N810

I will be at the Nokia store towards the end of the week. I hope they have an N810 to play with.

Fred

Here I am in the Chicago store trying out an N810.
the good:
Noltcably smaller than the N800
OS2008 looks good but that is rectifiable on the N800
there is a keyboard
the bad:
the keyboard is just about as clumsy as the full screen N800 but you can still see the app screen
sliding it open to do anyhtghing

the verdict:
I will try a frogpad.
Fred
posted on thw N810