I seem to remember someone saying that installing ogg support and then renaming your oggs to .mp3 was enough.

And yes, it is silly.

iTunes does remember the last position for podcasts, at least on the Mac side.

Actually xmms did just release an update. It's become a lot like utils, not much left to do.

As for zerojay, it doesn't have to be 'new code' to be good (in truth new code usually has as many if not more bugs), second I've been searching and the newest xmms specific security alert was 2005. In 2006 I found alerts related to the codecs (affecting windows too) And in 2007 SuSE had a compiler bug that affected a number of apps.

If you have more, that you have found, I'm sure there are a lot of distro's that want to know. Xmms's biggest 'problem' is it allows you to keep using the system for other things while listening to music. Not like winmobile or iPhone where it's all single threaded.

renaming files doesnt do the job - the default player still trips over the file format.

My biggest problem with XMMS is that it cannot display non-ascii characters in music titles etc.

For music, I use Kagu(mmm, kinetic scrolling is so tasty) and kilikali for my .ogg's.
I used Canola for a while, and it's solid. I loaded up UKMP and didn't care much for it for some equally intangible and arbitrary reason.

I still check out the new versions of all the media players, just to see if my preferences change with the updates. They're all impressive in their own right, and for being products of the community, even more so, IMO.

Does Kagu play .ogg? It sees them fine, even fetches covers and band images for them, but silence is all I get when I try to play them. I assume that they aren't currently supported, but that the player is aware that it's a common audio filetype, anyway. If they work renamed .mp3, I'd rather not bother, lol.

I installed the OGG support package (from one of the repos) and then I had installed Kagu.
I seem to be able to play my ogg files that I had burned previosly just fine. Copied them over from my desktop to the Nokia N810 and it plas in Kagu absolutely fine.

Did not need to rename the files or anything silly like that.

Hmm, I'll have to mess around with it. I haven't put much (read: any) effort into getting them working with kagu, since kilikali works fine in a pinch.