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MRTn : yes.. that's the most affected device because you can't have chinook. I posted about it here, and we can't compare with media default player because..
He is the player =) thus he doesn't need DBUS...
we send commands to it using DBUS, but DBUS doesn't understand non latin chars for your device / software...

And we cannot replace your DBUS, because almost the whole system depends on it.. and you would be using a Canola on a useless device... I prefer it to be a Useless canola on your usable device ...

So you have three options, even if we update to support russian etc:

1) convert at least your file names to latin chars... (don't need to convert tags tougth)
2) use another player (like the kagu or others or the default media player actually) that use mplayer, but are not heavy cpu eaters like canola...
3) use canola with mplayer... to play the audios... but this would not work as good as it would with the default media player : /

Sorry for that.. but this is unfortunately a "non-solvable" bug : /

> Sorry for that.. but this is unfortunately a "non-solvable" bug : /

oh no, it's ok, thanx for answer. i prefer first way =)

Зато у нас язык могучий и страна большая - переживем.

handful, one more question. as i said, in some cases (when mp3 file has no tags and file name contains russian symbols) russian symbols are showing well. it mean that your font supports russian. so, my question is: does it mean that you can provide support for non-cyrillic mp3 tags or it depends on DBUS too?

The way Handful explained the issue to myself was that the problem affecting OS2006/2007 (Nokia 770 & N800 users not running OS2008) is with filenames and DBUS only.

As a consequence I went off looking for a utility to assist in Bulk Renaming of files in a folder, that would assist with clever replacing of characters in a filename. (Prior to transfer to our NIT)

This is the post in my blog explaining what I believe we need to do, with a windows program to achieve it. http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?b...16478375837908

I am testing this morning with my Nokia 770 and Spanish music where the filenames use accents. (Tags too, but will leave tags with accents but replace accents in filename)

OK I have tested on my Nokia 770 with filenames that have accented characters.

Basically if you transfer an accented audio file to your Nokia 770 for example using the USB cable, the file will reside on your Nokia with an accented filename.

Then if you view the Artist, Album, Track in Canola, you will perhaps see strange names that represent the various accented tags within file.
(Canola is viewing the tagging information for Artist, Album, Track but in some cases misinterpreting the tag information, which is also an underlying OS problem?)

Now when you try to play the track, it will not be played! However if you remove/replace the accented characters from the filename it will be played in Canola.
(Although the tagging information may/will still be screwed)

ALL TO NOTE: Playing the same files in OS 2008 on the Nokia N800 or N810, both the accented and non accented file are read and played, but the accented characters are still replaced and in some cases screwed up! This occurs with both Canola and built in Media Player, where I use musicbrainz to tag my files with id3v2.3 tags. Nokia need to fix this, where I would imagine a bug has now been raised on OS2006, 2007 & 2008 Maybe one day soon it will be fixed and Nokia will advise us

---edit---

So to explain the visual name issue in Media Players a little further I will use the accented track I used as an example on my Nokia 770, N800 & N810.

i.e. My Music\Alejandro Sanz\Más\Corazón partío.mp3

Filename renamed from Corazón partío.mp3 to Corazon partio.mp3 before transfer to Nokia 770 to ensure track would actually be played in Canola on OS2006/2007HE.

In Canola and Media player on OS2006, 2007, 2008 the Artist, Album, Track name are seen via tagging as Alejandro Sanz, Mas, Corazsn partmo
quite different to the Album name of Más and actual track name of Corazón partío

Note how the accented characters are being replaced, and in some cases incorrectly replaced by the OS etc.

This is my layman's explanation of the symptoms as "unicode this or UTF-8, UTF-16 that" not to mention "ID3v1, v2 and then V2.3 V2.4" is just gobbledygook to many people.

The following two screen grabs taken from my N810 with latest OS2008 installed to illustrate the problem clearly in both Canola2 beta and built in Media Players.





To be sort of aligned with Flickr Community Guidelines, link to my recent Flickr Photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/83537107@N00/

We can support it, and will.. but the playback on BORA and bellow (2007 and 2006) is compromised (using the built in media player) there's the option of setting mplayer as backend but has some issues (mplayer eats more cpu and thus everything goes slower with background audio)

BR

Раз,два,три проверка, One, two, three test,test.

I would fully agree - no tags, just russian filename - it shown correcly in canola, as well as in built in player. Replacing standard player as canola engine to mplayer - questionable:
a. cold be slower
b. who said mplayer fine with tags . Mplayer not dealing with tags at all.

so definetly shuold be some other way...
I would probably repaeat myself but there are 2 applications Kagu and nokia media streamer which dealinng perfectly with russian.
regards,
kbovs

Hi Kbovs:

a. It's slower because Mplayer does decode simple mp3 in software thus consuming more cpu than the default mediaplayer that use the DSP. this also means more battery consumption.

The thing with Kagu : It uses mplayer but it's also "lighter" in all other aspects, what gives not much problem, but we do several transitions and more effects that are affected by mplayer as audio backeend.

"b. who said mplayer fine with tags . Mplayer not dealing with tags at all."
Exactly the tags are dealed with for us in the light media scaner. Thus is can be a mix of bug.


Nokia media stream uses the default medi player straigh (as it is from nokia) so they don't fall into the problem...
and Kagu uses mplayer, that I already explained.

For us is now more about making sure the LMS is handling right all characteres, adding a font for asian languages and testing as much as possible.

The only thing I said is clear : is you cannot use DBUS with musics that has any different character on file name for BORA and bellow. It simply won't get to the destination (media player) thus you cannot play the file. This is however fixed for chinook thus we will make it work.

That's the only real drawback. Others things..are considered as bugs and we will fix it.

I would like to ask also Kbovs some sample files that are giving you trouble inside canola.. so I can add them to my test media card.

Please... Send to my email handful AT gmail

BR

Marcelo

Marcelo,

I have sent you sample files, with screen shots how it should look like . Good luck with tags and enjoy music.
Konstantin