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here is something that may interest people

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=O7oTlm...eature=related
 

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Holy sh.... I'm only beginning to realize how powerful the OMAP3 really is. I mean, everybody says so and I knew some of the specifications, but I didn't have an idea of how this translates to user experience.

BTW, I like this one, too... maybe even better than the first one where the UI is a little awkward:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-UFUbqoNgs8
 

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i just wish that my N800 was user upgradeable.

something tells me the next nokia will not have two full size SD slots...
 
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Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
Holy sh.... I'm only beginning to realize how powerful the OMAP3 really is. I mean, everybody says so and I knew some of the specifications, but I didn't have an idea of how this translates to user experience.
****ing fast.

Seriously, ARM-core to ARM-core alone we're talking about a general speedup in the ballpark of 2-3x (a lot of that is memory and cache improvements). But you factor stuff like the C64x DSP that's faster than our current ARM11 CPU (430MHz) and the PowerVR, well. . . .
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Originally Posted by tso View Post
here is something that may interest people

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=O7oTlm...eature=related
"If you'll notice: we're populating not only a small screen on the device, we're actually populating a screen with this processor up to a 42" .. erm... erm... environment. This means that you're taking what's basically a mobile phone environment and it's good enough to drive every kind of experience that you have, including this screen here.... And again, what we're doing here today is populating a full 46" screen with the Internet browsing capability, and you can see the speed of this is truly... fierce."
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Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
BTW, I like this one, too... maybe even better than the first one where the UI is a little awkward:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-UFUbqoNgs8
The thing I notice about both of these demos is that they were constantly breaking the 30ms response window that they were talking about at the Summit; it took a long time for the UI to react to user requests. I also noticed that the screen update speeds were pretty awful. There was jumping and tearing all over the place. I guarantee that the final Fremantle UI on the new Nokia device will be much smoother and more responsive than those UIs.

But it so nice to see OpenGL making those 3D things happen...
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i suspect that some of the responsiveness is not related to software, but hardware.

those pesky resistive screens can be very picky about when they want to register a press, especially ones they have been used for a while...
 
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i really hope the final devices are more responsive.

the 3d system seems fine, but certainly not fluid.
very surprised at how the Movial demo posted by tso appears to run.
Its ok displaying on the large screen, I don't expect turbo performance.

However the fierce internet experience was more timid than anything and had me laughing (kinda like when a kitten tries to roar)
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Originally Posted by lcuk View Post
i really hope the final devices are more responsive.

the 3d system seems fine, but certainly not fluid.
very surprised at how the Movial demo posted by tso appears to run.
Its ok displaying on the large screen, I don't expect turbo performance.

However the fierce internet experience was more timid than anything and had me laughing (kinda like when a kitten tries to roar)
I got a kick out of that . . . fierce description too.

The potential of the OMAP to support video out has been around for a while. So far, the video out from existing high end Nseries has been at the same 480x320 of the device display. A 42" display is for show, but probably the same res you would want for a 19 or 22 inch monitor.

Good software and UI is essential, but video out is important to enabling the next generation of MIDs to compete against netbooks and laptops. The 3D stuff is impressive - makes you realize how far tech has come in just 5 years. But it doesn't do anything for me in terms of a product differentiator- I'll take functionality over eye candy every time.
 
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SD69,
i prefer both

/me wants cake and eat it too.
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