Hmmm...

I'm not sure this discussion belongs in the Buy-and-Sell section of the site, as it's not a discussion about posting a classified regarding a NIT for sale (or to buy) -- which is the type of posts this section seems to hold en mass -- but a general discussion regarding the availability of the N8x0 in Canada.

How do we move it back? Should we?

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And now for some reverse polish logic...

How about that the cell phone market reached saturation before the recent economic down turn. That is, most of those that needed cell phones had cell phones. Growth came from new features and expanding markets like adding children to family plans, etc.

This last bit is what has contracted. Folks don't need a new iPhone to make a call. Their old phone works just fine for that. And junior is just going to have to walk home if he misses the dang bus again.

Future growth is going to come from these newer portable devices. Nokia would be foolish if it abandoned the market now. Others may be to late to catch up.

People like us have understood the need to receive email on our hand held devices for sometime now. In fact, that simple task may have been the motivation of some to explore the NIT's in the first place. We also realized the need to be able to respond from our devices to whatever those emails bring in the way of attachments. We know we may need large amounts of locally stored data or current information from the internet in order to make timely decisions that some of those email responses require.

We are but a small percentage of the total market. I like to think we are ahead of the curve as far as that market goes so it's growth is yet to come.

With the economic downturn time is of the essence for survival for many businesses. Turn around, lead, and response times to sales inquiries, manufacturing, and time to market will make and break some. Email on the handheld device will no longer be a luxury reserved for CEO's and upper management. Rather it may well be a necessity for more and more line level supervisors and small business owners. The ones who actually get things done anyway.

Believe it or not this "light bulb" is just going off over the heads of most companies as they respond to the downturn. When the do act on this new necessity I'm thinkin' like us, they will find that a GPRS connection viewed from a 2" cell phone screen ain't gonna cut it.

How about we leave it alone and when more info about Canada sales becomes available it will be added to this active thread.

On that note I find it curious that as I recall. Canada was one of the last markets to get the N8**'s back in the day,.

This is precisely what I was thinking.

The coming (and existing) technologies like WAN, widespread VOIP, and all-data plans, hint at the need for pocket-able devices like the NIT line. A new class of internet-aware devices with similar capabilities as the average home-computer.

Nokia has a very mature product (the NIT) ready to exploit this market and as such is one-step ahead of its competitors which are entering with far less mature products. A quick comparison of the NIT to any of the announced MIDs shows its superiority. This is especially true when you factor Maemo (a mature portable OS) and considering that most MIDs seem to haphazardly throw full-desktop environments onto their mobile-screens. The NIT seems to be the only example of the MID done right.

Maemo itself, is also a very interestingly positioned technology. Not only is it open, but also is a mobile environment only one-step removed from the desktop. Many apps are ported easily (or so it seems), and it almost ensures that these same apps can be just as easily ported beyond the NIT with very little effort. They are in a sense, future-proof. Can the same be said about the BB, iphone, or pre environments, with their proprietary APIs?

That said, I agree it would be a step backwards to give-up on this line, considering at this point they have a solid product that's well positioned and ready for a fast approaching future market.



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I wonder if the fact that there's a Canadian on the Community Council this time will have an impact on availability of the new devices? I promise to make a big big stink if they overlook us again

Give. 'em. Hell.





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Awesome! While you're at it, can you plead for them to give us all a N810WE?! I'd love to see if it works on the existing Inukshuk network here!!

EIPI: I don't think it would. There's another thread where this is discussed, doesn't look like the "Portable Internet," or whatever the specific carrier in your market is calling it, is real WiMax. But I'd love to try anyway, too.

I just wish Nokia could use their big muscles to make Rogers give us a reasonable 3G data plan.

Sadly, it's true. The 'Wimax' that Bell/Rogers is peddling really isn't wimax at all, and certainly isn't 802.16e (mobile wimax). This means that any proper wimax device (like the N810wme) will not work on this network.

I recall that Primus was testing mobile Wimax in Hamilton (south west of Toronto) some years back, and had the city blanketed. However, I've not heard anything on this since. If they still are testing, it would be neat to try an N810wme on the service.

It's sad how the mighty have fallen. Canada was once revered for its telecom, and now has slipped into the-big-book-of-what-not-to-do. Here's hoping for better times ahead!


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Capt'n ...

@qole: Yeah, I am pretty sure it doesn't work in Canada. It had so much potential, didn't it... <sigh>

@Capt'n Corrupt: I believe that Primus is still testing their WiMAX in Hamilton. They were supposed to have a trial in Toronto also, but I could never get any info from them on that trial. I phoned them a few times in the past year about it.

Alas, Even venerable Apple could not get Rogers to offer a decent data plan when the iPhone 3G debuted here last summer. It was only after public uproar that they offered a limited time offer for $30/6GB. As it goes today, you are looking at $30/1GB or $60/3GB ...