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Originally Posted by qwerty12
Not really because somebody flashed it for me and he forced me to make a backup
Well, you've flashed the latest firmware image, you saw its disabled state, right?
And: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3279#c5
but thanks for the source!
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2009-10-20
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Originally Posted by mikkov
Last word I had from Quim was that it was going to ship disabled but they might change that in PR 1.1. . . .
Is it really disabled? (source)
edit: or is it really enabled? (source) (I have no idea)
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2009-10-20
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Originally Posted by zerojay
Priorities. Right now finding, reporting and triaging official platform/apps bugs is much more important, because once the thing is released it'll be months before we see an update. Extras on the other hand are much more flexible.
300 people got N900s at Summit and apparently aren't interested in helping at all. Incredible.
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2009-10-20
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Originally Posted by lma
Your response makes sense until you realize it just takes seconds to vote on packages anyway. Also, end users don't want to pick up their new phone and see nothing but opensshd being the only app they can install.
Priorities. Right now finding, reporting and triaging official platform/apps bugs is much more important, because once the thing is released it'll be months before we see an update. Extras on the other hand are much more flexible.
Believe me, I fully understand the importance of testing and filing bugs - look at my maemo.org profile - and if it took any longer than a few seconds to vote, I'd fully agree.
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Originally Posted by lcuk
As long as some one like me doesn't have to resubmit something like LIBICU42. A almost 2 hour build time for the Armel port. ;-) At least the x86 version is only about 30 minutes. But 2.5 hours for a single package to be built would kill some serious productivity on the "party" day.
btw, the sooner we decide on a day, the more chance people will have to prepare their apps for that day.
i've chosen the saturday partly because everyone else has, and partly because then it gives a couple of extra valuable days for developers test/debug things themselves so we get as many through as possible.
daniel, will the servers cope with a burst of activity?
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2009-10-20
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Originally Posted by zerojay
Yes, I've just been thinking that it would be wonderfully helpful if the Extras-testing armel version of a package was more prominent than the others. That's the one most people are expected to rate, but it's lumped (in apparently random order) in with three other very similar links.
I guess it also doesn't help that the interface is somewhat confusing. Be sure you're clicking on the particular version of the package you are testing so that you can give it a thumbs up...
I'm fairly certain I mistakenly rated the i386 version of Hermes the first time I ventured into the system, and I know very well the difference between i386 and ARMEL and where each is used. It's just far too easy to follow the wrong link.
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2009-10-20
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Originally Posted by zerojay
Please don't do that - either test properly (which takes time) and then vote, or not at all.
it just takes seconds to vote on packages anyway
Also, end users don't want to pick up their new phone and see nothing but opensshd being the only app they can install.
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2009-10-20
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby
Yes, at first it's a bit confusing, but after some time there you learn to avoid the noise ;-)
Yes, I've just been thinking that it would be wonderfully helpful if the Extras-testing armel version of a package was more prominent than the others. That's the one most people are expected to rate, but it's lumped (in apparently random order) in with three other very similar links.
I'm fairly certain I mistakenly rated the i386 version of Hermes the first time I ventured into the system, and I know very well the difference between i386 and ARMEL and where each is used. It's just far too easy to follow the wrong link.
My use of it now, it's go here: http://maemo.org/packages/repository...xtras-testing/
And press the version number, it will go to the right place where you should vote and comment.
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2009-10-20
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Some experience about testing apps in wxtras testing.
It takes at least for me quite a long time see if app is really working properly. I will not give app thumb up only for installing correctly and running. I see that there should be entry for app in bugzilla etc. It should also be possible to remove app without any problems and big files left behind. I have given few thumb ups only on few applications and filled some bugs for some of them. This all have taken already hours to do for few apps.
For example as simple application as password safe had some bugs and usability issues so I haven't yet given it thumb up but as it's working I'm bit hesitant to give it thumb down as some other testers might see it already good candidate for extras.
Many apps in the extras testing needs in my opinnion some love before they are ready for extras even if there are no any bugs on them. I would like that extras is for apps that are really good and not just quick ports.
It takes at least for me quite a long time see if app is really working properly. I will not give app thumb up only for installing correctly and running. I see that there should be entry for app in bugzilla etc. It should also be possible to remove app without any problems and big files left behind. I have given few thumb ups only on few applications and filled some bugs for some of them. This all have taken already hours to do for few apps.
For example as simple application as password safe had some bugs and usability issues so I haven't yet given it thumb up but as it's working I'm bit hesitant to give it thumb down as some other testers might see it already good candidate for extras.
Many apps in the extras testing needs in my opinnion some love before they are ready for extras even if there are no any bugs on them. I would like that extras is for apps that are really good and not just quick ports.
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And: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3279#c5