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2009-12-09
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Here is some feedback from someone who is still on Nokia 6110 because the N900 is STILL not available in Switerzland.
When I first got my N6110 I was supriesed that my battery would not even last 2 days.
So here is what the problem was. At home I have a very poor GSM coverage and no 3G at all. My phone was set to dual mode.
I told the poor battery performance to my sales person and he showed me how to switch the phone to use GSM only.
He told me that the problem was that the phone was contantly searching for antenna coverage. And that draind it.
Setting it to GSM only allmost doubled my battery life back then.
I think if you life right under an antenna you will have longer battery time then if you are further away.
So maybe one should be looking for a good coverage and use the better GSM or 3G depending on needs.
Maybe a full coverage at 3G will drain the pattery less then a very bad coverage at GSM .
Just my two cents on this.
Regards Markus
When I first got my N6110 I was supriesed that my battery would not even last 2 days.
So here is what the problem was. At home I have a very poor GSM coverage and no 3G at all. My phone was set to dual mode.
I told the poor battery performance to my sales person and he showed me how to switch the phone to use GSM only.
He told me that the problem was that the phone was contantly searching for antenna coverage. And that draind it.
Setting it to GSM only allmost doubled my battery life back then.
I think if you life right under an antenna you will have longer battery time then if you are further away.
So maybe one should be looking for a good coverage and use the better GSM or 3G depending on needs.
Maybe a full coverage at 3G will drain the pattery less then a very bad coverage at GSM .
Just my two cents on this.
Regards Markus
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2009-12-09
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Originally Posted by spousey
At total idle 9.1 days with those widgets etc enabled and on 3G without data connection. At total idle with 3G data connection on but idle 3.1 days with otherwise same settings. Any usage on top of this will of course drain the battery more. I have only had few hours of time to play around with the device after I had found out a way to get out of the Wi-Fi bug and had finished tests relating to it. As such, I can't really say very much on the real usage time. But based on various usages I would estimate around 2-3 days on very moderate usage, full day on quite high usage and some 6-8 hours on continuous heavy usage.
how long does your battery last????
Originally Posted by ysss
Considering that you generally use a lot of time on the web reading text etc, the connection will be idle most of the time. You only gain the saved time on less waiting for page to open. So, if 10 % of your surfing time is waiting for pages to open and it goes down to 1 % (assuming ideal server speeds), you get 9 % more time to use. As such, 10 % of 2G usage doesn't go to 1 % of 3G usage but to 1.09 % of 3G usage. So, the difference is still huge on the time the moderate battery draining is in affect on 2G compared to heavy battery draining on 3G.
Yes, this seems to be the least efficient way to make use of the 3G 'race to idle' concept.
Yes, that's the right concept but unless 90% of your browsing activities are task oriented then most people will 'spend' the time savings anyway ("Oh, I have 15 minutes to kill while waiting for my appointment"). So in the same amount of time you'll drain the battery more as you plow thru more pages. Yes, you get more data-per-mAH spent, but you'll end up spending more power anyway unless you consciously control the power spending.
And whenever you are doing something real instead of just getting rid of excess time, you will finish the job faster. In case you have something better to do with the time, that is a bonus.
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2009-12-09
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Originally Posted by Devil
Yes, some people don't have it. The possible reasons are that the bug only gets triggered with certain Wi-Fi routers and/or encryptions used or a hardware bug. And even if it is a hardware bug, it might be able to be bypassed with software fix. In any case you can contact Nokia customer support about the problem and see what they tell you to do.
seems to be saving me a lot of power. some people dont have this problem?
faulty hardware? if so im bringing it back.
I myself will wait for the bug report to be processed and only then if the problem is found out to be a hardware problem that can't be bypassed with software fix, will I take the phone to servicing to get it fixed. At least here there is 24 months warranty on the phone.
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2009-12-09
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Originally Posted by Phantasm
this doesnt make sense unless you have a none faulty unit an alot of people like me have dodgy ones, i get 3/4 of a day without using anythin at all an u can average 3-5 days?!?!?!? just want advise as to send back or not, or ask for a refund if this is the norm for me. Thanks.
At total idle 9.1 days with those widgets etc enabled and on 3G without data connection. At total idle with 3G data connection on but idle 3.1 days with otherwise same settings. Any usage on top of this will of course drain the battery more. I have only had few hours of time to play around with the device after I had found out a way to get out of the Wi-Fi bug and had finished tests relating to it. As such, I can't really say very much on the real usage time. But based on various usages I would estimate around 2-3 days on very moderate usage, full day on quite high usage and some 6-8 hours on continuous heavy usage.
Considering that you generally use a lot of time on the web reading text etc, the connection will be idle most of the time. You only gain the saved time on less waiting for page to open. So, if 10 % of your surfing time is waiting for pages to open and it goes down to 1 % (assuming ideal server speeds), you get 9 % more time to use. As such, 10 % of 2G usage doesn't go to 1 % of 3G usage but to 1.09 % of 3G usage. So, the difference is still huge on the time the moderate battery draining is in affect on 2G compared to heavy battery draining on 3G.
And whenever you are doing something real instead of just getting rid of excess time, you will finish the job faster. In case you have something better to do with the time, that is a bonus.
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2009-12-09
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Originally Posted by marktold
Yes, bad coverage may cause a lot more of battery usage. But generally 2G coverage is better than 3G coverage at any point. This is because 2G works fine with stations much further away. So, as such setting phone to GSM mode only will most often help in case of bad coverage.
So here is what the problem was. At home I have a very poor GSM coverage and no 3G at all. My phone was set to dual mode.
Maybe a full coverage at 3G will drain the pattery less then a very bad coverage at GSM.
Here in Finland, there is 2G coverage generally anywhere, even in the forests etc. But 3G coverage is only in the places where there are lots of people nearby. That is both because 2G was there before 3G but also due to it being cheaper to fill given area with 2G coverage than with 3G coverage.
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2009-12-09
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Originally Posted by spousey
Well, hard to say. With the Wi-Fi bug triggered I get less than 7 hours of idle time. But as long as I don't trigger it, it works fine for me. And as such, I can't really help with other possible problems.
this doesnt make sense unless you have a none faulty unit an alot of people like me have dodgy ones, i get 3/4 of a day without using anythin at all an u can average 3-5 days?!?!?!? just want advise as to send back or not, or ask for a refund if this is the norm for me. Thanks.
Either you have some problems with your phone or some of the programs you are using are causing excessive power drainage. Anyway, contact Nokia customer support if you can't fix the problems just by reading around the forums.
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2009-12-09
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Originally Posted by Phantasm
Thanks, I will tomoz, I have nothin else at all runnin i un-installed everythin, thats why i cant understand it an think its a hardware fault other than the known issue with the wifi cause i havent bin near it at all to trigger it off, but think theres a hell of alot of people in the same situation as me, anyway thanks for the help an hope the wifi's sorted soon
Well, hard to say. With the Wi-Fi bug triggered I get less than 7 hours of idle time. But as long as I don't trigger it, it works fine for me. And as such, I can't really help with other possible problems.
Either you have some problems with your phone or some of the programs you are using are causing excessive power drainage. Anyway, contact Nokia customer support if you can't fix the problems just by reading around the forums.
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2009-12-09
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Isnt there any way to completely disable Wifi? So that it doesnt turn on unless I specifically activate it? I hardly use WiFi, so I dont really need it most times..
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2009-12-09
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I have issue with WiFi too. I tried to connect to WPA/PEAP/MSCHAPv2 and fail because used wrong setting. After 2h battery was completely drain and phone was Hot....
Now when I am using same network but with correct parameters.
Phantasm: Could you like to tell how to determine Current from your script?
I have this result for battery:
battery.charge_level.capacity_state = 'ok' (string)
battery.charge_level.current = 2 (0x2) (int)
battery.charge_level.design = 8 (0x8) (int)
battery.charge_level.last_full = 0 (0x0) (int)
battery.charge_level.percentage = 22 (0x16) (int)
battery.remaining_time = 3600 (0xe10) (int)
battery.reporting.current = 285 (0x11d) (int)
battery.reporting.design = 1245 (0x4dd) (int)
battery.reporting.last_full = 0 (0x0) (int)
battery.voltage.current = 3737 (0xe99) (int)
battery.voltage.design = 4200 (0x1068) (int)
thanks
Now when I am using same network but with correct parameters.
Phantasm: Could you like to tell how to determine Current from your script?
I have this result for battery:
battery.charge_level.capacity_state = 'ok' (string)
battery.charge_level.current = 2 (0x2) (int)
battery.charge_level.design = 8 (0x8) (int)
battery.charge_level.last_full = 0 (0x0) (int)
battery.charge_level.percentage = 22 (0x16) (int)
battery.remaining_time = 3600 (0xe10) (int)
battery.reporting.current = 285 (0x11d) (int)
battery.reporting.design = 1245 (0x4dd) (int)
battery.reporting.last_full = 0 (0x0) (int)
battery.voltage.current = 3737 (0xe99) (int)
battery.voltage.design = 4200 (0x1068) (int)
thanks
faulty hardware? if so im bringing it back.