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2010-02-04
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Originally Posted by torpedo48
in order to resolve conflicts that dev & testing packages cause to updates.
Why do you have to remove them before FOTA?
I've never done that, I prefer have a definitive solution for having free space on rootfs.
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2010-02-04
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True for dev, but I've never found a conflict with a testing app.
And I've never installed a dev app as well!
And I've never installed a dev app as well!
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2010-02-04
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To anyone thinking this thread is a "solution" to space on rootfs:
1. There's a reason things are where they are, be it for system speed or other considerations. If you do these mods, at the very least you'll be unable to successfully receive OTA updates and will need to manually install, then reconfigure the changes again. Or worse could happen.
2. There's a reason software is still in extras-devel and not moved to at least extras-testing. Not being optified for Maemo 5 is just one of them. For instance, like ossipena said, they may cause other problems like dependency resolution, particularly when updating. Anything from devel should only be used by those willing and able to fix their device when devel stuff breaks it.
3. If you have a space problem on rootfs, the only real solution is to uninstall the stuff using it up or, if you're really good, optify the offending software yourself.
Last edited by Crashdamage; 2010-02-04 at 11:06.
1. There's a reason things are where they are, be it for system speed or other considerations. If you do these mods, at the very least you'll be unable to successfully receive OTA updates and will need to manually install, then reconfigure the changes again. Or worse could happen.
2. There's a reason software is still in extras-devel and not moved to at least extras-testing. Not being optified for Maemo 5 is just one of them. For instance, like ossipena said, they may cause other problems like dependency resolution, particularly when updating. Anything from devel should only be used by those willing and able to fix their device when devel stuff breaks it.
3. If you have a space problem on rootfs, the only real solution is to uninstall the stuff using it up or, if you're really good, optify the offending software yourself.
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2010-02-04
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Originally Posted by Crashdamage
That's why I've never installed any of the devel apps and I've never optified somewhat myself (except for non-system apps and the boot video).
To anyone thinking this thread is a "solution" to space on rootfs:
1. There's a reason things are where they are, be it for system speed or other considerations. If you do these mods, at the very least you'll be unable to successfully receive OTA updates and will need to manually install, then reconfigure the changes again. Or worse could happen.
2. There's a reason software is still in extras-devel and not moved to at least extras-testing. Not being optified for Maemo 5 is just on of them. Like ossipena said, they may cause other problems like dependency resolution, particularly when updating. Anything from devel should only be used by those willing and able to fix their device when devel stuff breaks it.
3. If you have a space problem on rootfs, the only real solution is to uninstall the stuff using it up or, if you're really good, optify the offending software yourself.
Thanks Crashdamage for pointing out all these things.
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2010-02-04
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Originally Posted by ossipena
i do see your point, but i always start fresh when new (major) updates come out anyway.............
one can always choose not to install stuff from dev, and in any way one must remove dev & testing stuff before SSU update in order to get the update installed with app manager.
each to their own
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2010-02-04
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Is there a way to find out which app was installed from -devel or -testing repository?
Is there a way to find out how much rootfs is used by a package/app when you already have it installed?
Is there a way to find out how much rootfs is used by a package/app when you already have it installed?
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2010-02-04
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Originally Posted by BugHunter
There are several ways to do that from X-Term, but what I suggest to you is using Storage Usage and its packages scan feature.
Is there a way to find out which app was installed from -devel or -testing repository?
Is there a way to find out how much rootfs is used by a package/app when you already have it installed?
Just install it from the Extras repository and use the packages scan, you will immediately know what are the not-optified packages (red packages) and how much they occupy in your rootfs.
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2010-02-04
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Originally Posted by BugHunter
Not that I know of, no. The metadata around installed apps doesn't seem to include the originating repository.
Is there a way to find out which app was installed from -devel or -testing repository?
Originally Posted by BugHunter
You can use StorageUsage as I've explained here. There's also a number of perl scripts around to do this sort of thing - the ones I modified and use can be found here - there's some documentation in the zip file.
Is there a way to find out how much rootfs is used by a package/app when you already have it installed?
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2010-02-04
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Originally Posted by Crashdamage
whoah!
To anyone thinking this thread is a "solution" to space on rootfs:
1. There's a reason things are where they are, be it for system speed or other considerations...
I had to check the top of the page after that one. I thought I may have fallen into an iphone forum there for a minute...
Busting the "manufacturer knows best" attitude is half of what this forum is all about, isn't it?
I've never done that, I prefer have a definitive solution for having free space on rootfs.