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2010-03-28
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Originally Posted by geneven
I didn't say it was. This point has been raised several times on this forum and the links posted before.
"The N900 is a work in progress and was billed as suitable for developers and early adopters." I never saw this, say, in the advertisement that comes on the N900.
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Originally Posted by geneven
I totally agree - the content of some individual posts leaves a lot to be desired and it is nice to see some people are polite!
I AM an early adapter, but where was this formally stated by Nokia? Maybe the advertisement stating this should be put in the Wiki -- the issue comes up quite often.
By the way, can the moderators watch the commentary? I don't think calling someone a "dickwad" is called for.
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2010-03-28
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Originally Posted by Fargus
You said it was "billed" as for early adapters and developers. I think that is untrue. I think it was "billed" as really cool and worthy of weird advertising. That doesn't translate into "developers" to me.
I didn't say it was. This point has been raised several times on this forum and the links posted before.
The step 4 of 5 stuff was supposedly said at Maemo meetings. I don't think the typical purchaser of the N900 went to those meetings, or should have.
I just get tired of hearing this stuff about being billed for early adapters and developers only, because I think it's a crock, and always have.
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2010-03-28
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Originally Posted by geneven
Actually this was all over the Nokia site but agree, it wasn't highlighted. The response is more a case of explaination of the device placement, not justification of the marketing.
You said it was "billed" as for early adapters and developers. I think that is untrue. I think it was "billed" as really cool and worthy of weird advertising. That doesn't translate into "developers" to me.
The step 4 of 5 stuff was supposedly said at Maemo meetings. I don't think the typical purchaser of the N900 went to those meetings, or should have.
I just get tired of hearing this stuff about being billed for early adapters and developers only, because I think it's a crock, and always have.
There is however lots of information and most of the reviews also used this as a descrption so it isn't exactly new (Google Entries). I think the annoyance here should be irected at least in part to the retailers as well.
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2010-03-28
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N900 as a phone/mobile computer: Maemo Explanation on Nokia Site.
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2010-03-28
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Originally Posted by Fargus
Please. You know what I'm talking about. My understanding of the context is correct. You didn't post that you're "using your keyboard" as an informative statement. You are doing what i keep saying. "Downplaying other peoples need".
So the attitude that I am capable of typing quickly with a hardware keyboard is annoying? I'm sorry but I was under the impression tht I was entitled to use the device as I saw fit. The comment you quite was in response to another user and 'tongue-in-cheek' regarding another discussion. You really need to learn to understand context.
As for attitude, I believe that you are the one showing an intollerance, not I. As for difference of opinion, I believe that I am still entitled to hold a differing opinion and if you find this such an issue you are going to find the world in general a real pain. Once you learn to debate in a less emotive manner you are likely to be consideredfar more persuasive.
If you are comfortable with what it is. That is fine. Others are not.
My problem is not in your opinion. You and I and everyone is entitled to their opinions. My problem Is that why when someone "whines" as you or others might call it. He or She is given a hard time? blamed for lack of research? ignorance? told that is "device" is the wrong device for them? told to if they want something to just "make" it?
Why not just tell them. This options is not currently available. no plans for it now. Simple. Non-Offensive. Objective.
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2010-03-28
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Originally Posted by Fargus
That is an article. not a product
You might note that there is a discussion here by mainstream publication in 2007 so I think we can say this is not cutting edge.
I would also like you to moderate your language. I have not claimed that asking for it is inexcusable I merely pointed out some observations. I believe that I refrained from expressing an opinion. Stop making assumptions about my motivation and quoting them in public!
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2010-03-28
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Originally Posted by Fargus
Refer to this post:
N900 as a phone/mobile computer: Maemo Explanation on Nokia Site.
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...8&postcount=16
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2010-03-28
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Originally Posted by Corso85
Actually your understanding is not correct. To avoid possible confusion I am placing that as a plain statement. No reference is being made to other's use case on this. Your assumption, yes it is an assumption, has been corrected once, do not start trying to place your own viewpoint as my stated point; I don't believe that I have done the same to yourself so please do not disrespect others on this forum!
Please. You know what I'm talking about. My understanding of the context is correct. You didn't post that you're "using your keyboard" as an informative statement. You are doing what i keep saying. "Downplaying other peoples need".
If you are comfortable with what it is. That is fine. Others are not.
Originally Posted by Corso85
I believe that I merely pointed out some inconsistencies in your original post. The point regarding applicatiosn and operating systems was supposed to help you deliniate your langage in a technical discussion.
My problem is not in your opinion. You and I and everyone is entitled to their opinions. My problem Is that why when someone "whines" as you or others might call it. He or She is given a hard time? blamed for lack of research? ignorance? told that is "device" is the wrong device for them? told to if they want something to just "make" it?
Why not just tell them. This options is not currently available. no plans for it now. Simple. Non-Offensive. Objective.
I didn't mention 'lack of research', call you ignorant or state that the device was wrong for you.
I stated that you were free to add the functionality yoursef if you wanted it. This is an option available to the Maemo community as a whole and something that I believe is fairly unique amongst large hardware manufacturers in this product placement.
Asking for functionality is one thing, stmaping your foot and shouting loudly that you have been dealt an injustice is another matter. Many people have bought devices in the past that have not lived up to their expectations, myself included. The choices available then are either to return the device as not suitable or live with the device on the basis that it does most of what you would like.
If you are unable to add the functionality yourself and you would like someone to add this for you then there are ways of doing this but emotive posts are unlikely to gain favourable responses from the developers in the community. Try posting a request for an application instead, think about your requirements and post them logically and clearly. You can add a brainstorm and encourage others to vote for it. A popular solution that is well thought out is likely to gain suport from developers. If not the maybe it's not important enough for the userbase as a whole.
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2010-03-28
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Originally Posted by Corso85
Have you heard of Google? I specifically went to find a reference to show you that several manufacturers have products as you would have noticed had you read the article. Look at the IBM thinkpad then. For once put some effort into things!
That is an article. not a product
Thinkpad X60
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Other manufacturers make similar products (including Nokia) but I can't be bothered to do the job of google for you!
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As for attitude, I believe that you are the one showing an intollerance, not I. As for difference of opinion, I believe that I am still entitled to hold a differing opinion and if you find this such an issue you are going to find the world in general a real pain. Once you learn to debate in a less emotive manner you are likely to be consideredfar more persuasive.