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me2000 is offline me2000
2010-05-06 , 15:58
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#21
Symbian is a dead end, unless Nokia can get a developer community that is going to release apps for it like Apple gets with its app store. Nobody is going to do that.

Nokia's development team can hardly keep up with OS and phone applications let alone compete with what Apple has going with its App store.

Its the WHOLE PRODUCT that matters. Hardware, OS, 3rd party apps, support, user community support, etc.

People are releasing apps for Android though and I'm guessing its not going to take much to port Android apps to MeeGo.

I think its great that MeeGo developers will have QT-Quick and Qt-Creator to use for tools.

Nokia (et al) really need to get the GUI part of Meego released.
 
bbin is offline bbin
2010-05-06 , 16:05
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Only thing I'm wondering now is that why on earth did they invest so little money on the software development side during 2008 and 2009...
 
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2010-05-06 , 16:11
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Only thing I'm wondering now is that why on earth did they invest so little money on the software development side during 2008 and 2009...
They spent $410 million, in 2008, to buy the remaining 52 percent of Symbian. And then open sourced it.
 

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leetut is offline leetut
2010-05-06 , 16:11
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well i waited for 6months for the n97 to be released, pre ordered it costing £500, it was absolutely terrible until 6months later when fw2.0 made it barely acceptable, but by then i hated it, and hated them!
swore blind that id never ever give them my money again.
then did a lot of research looking for my next phone and ended up with the n900, so nokia must be doing something right for me to give them another £500 for the n900,
(thats £1000 in 6months i gave them by the way)
but ill never but a phone again until its been on the market for at least 4months, i think a lot of people are very wary about choosing nokia now, and i think there making absotutely sure pr1.2 is ready before releasing it, so they dont look like plums again, cos it would be the end of them if they bricked everyones phone

but i agree with these points:
scrapping maemo?
lack of apps?
no news on firmware fixes ? (that are desperately needed by most)
and throwing more money at symbian?

someone at nokia needs a slap!
need to get back to the n95 days when nokia ruled the world
and forget the usa market, make awesome products that actually work, and the usa buyers will come to them
simples!
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2010-05-06 , 16:17
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Originally Posted by me2000 View Post
People are releasing apps for Android though and I'm guessing its not going to take much to port Android apps to MeeGo.
You guess incorrectly. Though you can kinda leverage JNI to use native code in an Android app (my Android apps use it, since I wrote the core engine in c... to make it work well with the iPhone, Qt, etc), most people don't, because it's a pain. Nearly all of the Android apps are 100% Java. So basically, you have to re-implement almost everything, and that isn't even considering the OS API differences--merely your logic.
 

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2010-05-06 , 16:18
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Originally Posted by kojacker View Post
They spent $410 million, in 2008, to buy the remaining 52 percent of Symbian. And then open sourced it.
And its useless. Total waste of money.

Symbian is and has been a dead platform for a while. Once Nokia bought Symbian everyone one else dropped it or tried to.

Only Apple can get buy in from the development community with a proprietary OS. That is the beauty of Meego. Its collaborative and the installed platform is going to be huge.
 
bbin is offline bbin
2010-05-06 , 16:19
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Originally Posted by kojacker View Post
They spent $410 million, in 2008, to buy the remaining 52 percent of Symbian. And then open sourced it.
Oh, I almost forgot that
Then they should really deliver with symbian^4 or Nokia is truly losing the whole tournament.
 
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2010-05-06 , 16:20
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Originally Posted by twoboxen View Post
You guess incorrectly. Though you can kinda leverage JNI to use native code in an Android app (my Android apps use it, since I wrote the core engine in c... to make it work well with the iPhone, Qt, etc), most people don't, because it's a pain. Nearly all of the Android apps are 100% Java. So basically, you have to re-implement almost everything, and that isn't even considering the OS API differences--merely your logic.
There is no reason why Meego can't support Java apps. As a matter of fact I think Qt has a layer for this.

Nothing would give Meego a boost out of the gate like if it allowed users to run the whole portfolio of Android apps.

Some of the iPhone based apps run on Android. The same needs to happen with Meego.
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2010-05-06 , 16:31
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Originally Posted by me2000 View Post
And its useless. Total waste of money.

Symbian is and has been a dead platform for a while. Once Nokia bought Symbian everyone one else dropped it or tried to.
Symbian is not useless. The N8 has a 680 MHz ARM11 CPU. Maemo would be awful on it, whereas the current N8 is supposed to feature 60 fps transitions, destroy the N900 in battery life, and feature the best camera in the market while being thinner.

Bloggers are of course concentrating on the CPU and calling it a failure before they've seen it, but if Nokia can manage to finish the software before launch this time, that thing is going to eat everyone else's lunch at <400 euros.
 

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2010-05-06 , 16:36
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Originally Posted by me2000 View Post
There is no reason why Meego can't support Java apps. As a matter of fact I think Qt has a layer for this.

Nothing would give Meego a boost out of the gate like if it allowed users to run the whole portfolio of Android apps.
Mobile devices are still RAM-limited. It's not a good option imho, especially when lazy developers would just start coding everything for Android first and then releasing bad ports for Maemo months late.

Unlike Apple, Nokia will not prevent us from coming up with a solution of our own, but as an official policy it would suck.
 

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