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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
I still take issue with that.

When the N900 was first released, I found far, FAR more negative press on it than positive. I daresay it might actually be the same now.

And I'm still befuddled by what detractors expect here. I respectfully point to the url and all identity elements clearly showing this to be a Maemo-centric site. More people are naturally here to learn what they can do with the N900, not zero in on flaws.

So a little more pragmaticism, guys, please, and less disingenuity over the default tenor.
Yes, I'm fine with that; that is to be expected from a forum like this.

What I take specific issue with are the defences thrown whenever someone ask about (Maemo on) N900's deficiencies:

- You didn't do your homework, you should research it first

- The N900 is not a phone/smartphone; it's an internet tablet with a cellular phone (???)

- N900 is just step 4 out of 5 (Is that even still relevant? How can someone from the outside know about such obscure remark made on maemo-developers-only gatherings?

All those remarks would work if the person who voiced the complain is an active reader of this forum; of which case he probably won't be asking those questions in the first place.
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ysss I won't defend responses on an individual basis. There are too many extremists on either side of this silly old war who refuse to exhibit any consideration for others.

But I respectfully submit that anyone coming to an enthusiast site expecting pure objectivity is severely deluding themselves. It's improbable. So while I won't defend certain incidents and aspects of the never-ending debate, I will vigorously defend the right of this forum in toto to operate as an enthusiast site where members shouldn't be made to feel guilty for overlooking shortcomings of a device they find mostly useful.
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@tex: hey, i'm with you on that point.
Maybe I'll spend sometime to write up a 'N900 problems list' that could be useful to new users reading up about the unit. Then again, it's already quite late in N900's lifecycle..
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Originally Posted by ysss View Post
@tex: hey, i'm with you on that point.
Maybe I'll spend sometime to write up a 'N900 problems list' that could be useful to new users reading up about the unit. Then again, it's already quite late in N900's lifecycle..
I actually agree with that, on both counts. Heck that should have been on the wiki. But then, it still doesn't solve the problem of people dropping in here angrily and being surprised by "fanboy" defensiveness.

Ultimately I fault Nokia marketing (certainly not this volunteer-staffed forum) for continuing to present Maemo devices as more polished and consumer-ready than they actually are. That's bothered me ever since the N800 launch...
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You are so eloquent Texrat.
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Seriously, why can't moderators DELETE these threads?
Or, at least, merge them into the "N900 graveyard" thread?
 
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Originally Posted by Laughingstok View Post
You are so eloquent Texrat.
I blame lack of alcohol.
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As a new user myself, I can say that "do your homework first" is a valid point. I spent about a month reading this forum before I made my decision to buy an n900 and I couldn't be happier. I have yet to come across something I really wanted that the community doesn't have a solution for. That said, if you are not willing to get your hands dirty and learn some new things about computers this is not the device for you.

Btw, I think the Droid Incredible was the next best thing I handled in my research and even that felt like a toy compared to the n900
 

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One more quick point - any question I have will generate several useful responses within 5 minutes. How many other communities can claim that?
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
I blame lack of alcohol.
Speaking of...
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