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#21
Originally Posted by AtteK0 View Post
I bought my N900 because there were promises in the air
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Nokia did not promise any of the above.
Congratulations for contradicting yourself. Maybe next time decide first for *one* argumentation before posting.
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Originally Posted by AtteK0 View Post
However where did you find the 2 future updates you told me?
PR1.3 is mentioned in the maemo bugzilla.
I don't know where I read about the second (I assume a smaller update between PR1.2 and PR1.3), but I read it

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i dont even look at these threads anymore
and the forum is a great experience now!
i suggest you all do the same
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Originally Posted by leetut View Post
i dont even look at these threads anymore
and the forum is a great experience now!
i suggest you all do the same
If we had better moderation they would be quickly closed or moved to some other spot.

The mods promised I would never have to see these threads. I am never going to use these mods again!

To the OP - you're mad at Nokia because you wanted an iPhone and bought an n900 instead? Interesting.
 
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I am enjoying my N900, what have I done wrong?

probably one thing: my background research started a little after n810 was released and lasted until preorders were made available to public....
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somebody stop this! i cant put my research on a full blast cause this kinda thread is appearing after typing a keyword!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Andre Klapper View Post
Congratulations for contradicting yourself. Maybe next time decide first for *one* argumentation before posting.
Good job trying to find someone to bash and something to bash with. Not so good job bashing.

He did not contradict himself.

He said there were "promises in the air", and there were.

In November 2009, when I ordered my N900, I was under the clear understanding that Flash 10.1 would arrive as soon as it was ready, and I never read any uncertainty expressed about that. I don't know the source of this common understanding, but as long it was not official Nokia, OP does indeed not contradict himself. There certainly was "promises in the air".

This device, more than any other I've seen, was sold with it's potential as one of the main arguments. Early on it was commonly believed that MMS might show up, portrait mode in the browser was commonly expected in PR1.1 and many mistook that for full portrait mode support, and it seemed clear as day that the flash update was just around the corner.

Nokia suggested some of these things would show up, but never really promised anything much. Fboys repeated their suggestions as it were Holy Scripture and used it to bash anyone who pointed out missing features in the N900. Still do, sometimes, only now they've moved on to bashing people who point out no official MeeGo.

There WERE promises of features that were merely delayed. But no, Nokia hasn't put their signature on these promises.So they can't be held legally responsible for the many common misconceptions. Even if some of the rumours can be traced back to some unclear Nokia statement that people read every which way depending on their Faith.
 

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It was a time, not many days ago. I had stayed up days looking and lurking for what this "N900" was. I read and was amazed on the features it included in this small, little device. I could modify, fix, improve and share more or less anything on the phone. The freedom was mine, and soon the N900 too. But behold, I saw that Adobe Flash was installed. I thought to myself and crippled: "Evil has presented itself, this must be rid off". APT Front-end GUI wouldn't help me none. It's existence it wouldn't even admit. I was able to hunt down this beast, this infectious blob that was poisoning my beautiful system. I looked and I looked but I didn't find any other searching soul who had ever tried getting ridden of this plague. At last I did "apt-cache search flash" and "adobe-flashplayer" presented itself! The blood began pumping in my veins and a smile started forming on my face and in the back of my head I heard a whisper saying: "The final solution". Faster than lightning, silent as night I typed "apt-get remove adobe-flashplayer" and laughed. But much to my despair - it would not work. Equilvalent attempt desperately with "apt-get purge adobe-flashplayer" showed similar results.

Somehow, my instructions to APT seem to have been mistranslated by this little form of assembly code. Instead of giving me the pleasure of seeing this horrible feature banished of my bold, solid and shining device. It told me: "Need to get 110MB of archives." With wonder I thought: "But how can this be?" and "I am but a lonely soul on a lonely quest to improve this horrible world and see forth a new dawn of freedom from proprietary blobs and user-contempt applications.

I wander to this day, this path alone, and a little tear drop from my eye every time I wish to see the newest representations of beauty online - only to see that Adobe Flash is present. I bow my head and walk silently into the abyss and wonder when this madness will end.
 
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#30
Originally Posted by AtteK0 View Post
I bought my N900 because there were promises in the air of the Flash 10.1, 3D games, extensive software support and support for the next gen OS.

However, Nokia has no obligations to develop us anything after we have bought the device already, aka Nokia has our money. N900 is a product that is "ready" right after Nokia got it sold.

What can we do about this? Pretty much nothing.

Nokia did not promise any of the above. Adobe demoed Flash 10.1 but so what? Nokia is not paying anything extra to make existing consumers happy and that is the way of the capitalistic world.

Instead we have silence of the matters we are arguing here at the forums. Please do not start flame wars about how bad everything is here at Maemo.org

It really will not help. What will help is that you will not buy the products of the company in the future that you do not like. That is also the idea of capitalism.
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