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Joorin	2010-07-17 , 13:51
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Originally Posted by rizwan

Well I have been avoiding reflashing because I thought I shouldn't have to.

Since you later describe that you've installed "lots of devel applications", having to reflash should be something that is to be expected.

End of the day it's a phone and it really should come as a finished product.

No. It is an internet tablet with phone functionality slapped onto it. If you use it as an internet tablet (and stay away from devel software or pick very carefully) it'll work just fine.

If you want to use it as a phone too, keep in mind the "slapped onto" status of that functionality.

This is not a smartphone.

Last edited by Joorin; 2010-07-17 at 13:52. Reason: Typo

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rizwan	2010-07-17 , 22:53
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Originally Posted by Crashdamage

Mine is very stable and fast. Got it in November, use it a lot, but it's never been flashed and doubt I ever will need to. I'm a longtime Linux user too and never reinstall, just troubleshoot and fix whatever. I've had to do almost none of that with Maemo. I've installed stuff from testing and devel, but been careful and conservative.

I use modest to handle 4 accounts nicely, 3 pop 1 imap. Been much better though since I installed this:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=56634

Thanks for this one.

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	imperiallight	2010-07-17 , 23:03
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No. It is an internet tablet with phone functionality slapped onto it. If you use it as an internet tablet (and stay away from devel software or pick very carefully) it'll work just fine.

If you want to use it as a phone too, keep in mind the "slapped onto" status of that functionality.

This is not a smartphone.

I do agree with what you have termed it as.

But don't you feel it was overpriced at launch for what it was?
Do you think Nokia ever used the term internet tablet for the n900?
Isn't the screen pathetically small to be a tablet?
Isn't is rather chubby to be a tablet?
Shouldn't Flash upgrades be a standard upgrade?

Just things to ponder.

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9000	2010-07-18 , 07:44
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Originally Posted by imperiallight

I do agree with what you have termed it as.

But don't you feel it was overpriced at launch for what it was?
Do you think Nokia ever used the term internet tablet for the n900?
Isn't the screen pathetically small to be a tablet?
Isn't is rather chubby to be a tablet?
Shouldn't Flash upgrades be a standard upgrade?

Just things to ponder.

No need to ponder. I take advantage of its mixed identity.

"Your phone is ****ing big"

"Because this is a computer"

"The screen is ****ing small"

"Because this is a phone"

"...."

To some people N900 is just fit. To position a product to fit the potential market segment is not our concern.

For your information, I upgraded my flash OTA.

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rizwan	2010-07-18 , 08:58
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Originally Posted by Joorin

Since you later describe that you've installed "lots of devel applications", having to reflash should be something that is to be expected.

No. It is an internet tablet with phone functionality slapped onto it. If you use it as an internet tablet (and stay away from devel software or pick very carefully) it'll work just fine.

If you want to use it as a phone too, keep in mind the "slapped onto" status of that functionality.

This is not a smartphone.

So you are saying that the ideal usage of N900 is to just stick to tablet functionality and have another device to be used as a phone?

I dont want to start this pointless argument but if it takes a sim card, makes calls, and txt msgs then it's a phone. That's my opinion and others dont have to agree with it.

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	imperiallight	2010-07-18 , 09:22
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Originally Posted by rizwan

So you are saying that the ideal usage of N900 is to just stick to tablet functionality and have another device to be used as a phone?

I dont want to start this pointless argument but if it takes a sim card, makes calls, and txt msgs then it's a phone. That's my opinion and others dont have to agree with it.

smartphone vs featurephone vs basic phone functionality are the distinctions

Smartphone is GPS, voice dialling etc all the really cool phones
Featurephone is Java etc (n900 can't do this as standard)
Basic phone is... well basic... calls, texts etc

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icomxwing	2010-07-18 , 09:52
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My overall experience has been good... I've had to re-flash twice. If you decide you want to mess with dev / extras be prepared to flash. If you take the training wheels off you can go faster but you might fall off sometimes too. I think the n900 is a great device but I do agree that it is a small tablet with a phone program slapped on the side.

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chatbox	2010-07-18 , 10:03
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One thing I know for sure is that the N900 is definitely not suitable to be used as a business communication device.

1. Laggy response when unlocking device.
2. Bluetooth audio quality is lacking.
3. e-mail app looks like a highschool project at best.

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dynomot	2010-07-18 , 10:26
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Originally Posted by chatbox

One thing I know for sure is that the N900 is definitely not suitable to be used as a business communication device.

1. Laggy response when unlocking device.
2. Bluetooth audio quality is lacking.
3. e-mail app looks like a highschool project at best.

1. Never happens on mine unlocks instantly
2. Never had an issue, pairs perfectly with everything I've tried it with.

3. It works and is easy to set up. I can add attachments and forward emails, compose them and send them to multiple addresses. What more would you want ? Hardly a "high school project." If you can do better, do it.

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Joorin	2010-07-18 , 12:21
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Originally Posted by imperiallight

I do agree with what you have termed it as.

But don't you feel it was overpriced at launch for what it was?

If you think a product is too expensive, you don't buy it. Simple as that. Arguing that Nokia is responsible for your purchase (which is implied by calling it "overpriced") is, to me, absurd.

I got a good deal paying only 30% for a factory new unit (which at 100% was even more expensive than if I had bought it in a store) and that made it easy for me to make up my mind. Had I had to pay the full price, I wouldn't have had an N900 today. Easy as that.

Do you think Nokia ever used the term internet tablet for the n900?

I have no idea. I didn't spend my time looking at the glossy advertising material, I spent it looking at what would be shipped in the device in terms of hardware and design choices.

Isn't the screen pathetically small to be a tablet?

It's a good size for a tablet that would fit in my pocket. There are mini versions of at least one smart phone being sold with extremely small screens. There is a market for that too...