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2010-12-13
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Dude works for google
just trying to drum up business for the boss
Sony Ericsson sold out to Google. They've lost their individuality and succumbed to the "clone-ification" of the "smart" phone market.
They lost control over the OS that runs on their phones and they way in which it handles their customers' information and their won capacity to independently update their devices without the OK form Big Brother.
yep go Android. that'll really make you stand out in the crowd
or perhaps you work for Huawei?
they have an interest in Google/android.... amongst other things
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just trying to drum up business for the boss
Sony Ericsson sold out to Google. They've lost their individuality and succumbed to the "clone-ification" of the "smart" phone market.
They lost control over the OS that runs on their phones and they way in which it handles their customers' information and their won capacity to independently update their devices without the OK form Big Brother.
yep go Android. that'll really make you stand out in the crowd
or perhaps you work for Huawei?
they have an interest in Google/android.... amongst other things
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2010-12-13
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Originally Posted by bandora
Are you quoting Nokia's data zbout ovi store?
And it's never too late for anything..
Android does suck because of how it works.. VM environment..
There.. I answered you.
Besides, to use VM is a very wise idea.
Just like Nokia use Qt to let more apps run on MeeGo & Symbian.
By using Dalvik Java VM, it become easier for app development.
Android then get a big bang of apps.
Actually, Nokia is noe doing exactly the same thing,
but the tool is not VM, but Qt.
So, Android using Dalvik is a wise decision to get apps quickly.
And for Apps need more resource/efficiency, developers can use C to develpe the app directly, the efficiency is higher than Java.
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2010-12-13
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Funny thread. 
Honestly though why would you want Nokia to go for Android? HTC, SE, Samsung, LG and cheapo brands are already there. Plus it's no free pass to success just look at Moto who started well but i don't see them ever coming back as big as before with Android, same for LG. The high end Android market is controlled by HTC and Samsung pretty much.
Just as a consumer i rather see Nokia to bring it's own new OS as they still got the weight for it and while Android might ok for quick return MeeGo potential for Nokia is much much bigger. Android on my GS is by no means bad but still not what i want. Somehow i think i'm talking to a wall or a bot reading your comments though...
Honestly though why would you want Nokia to go for Android? HTC, SE, Samsung, LG and cheapo brands are already there. Plus it's no free pass to success just look at Moto who started well but i don't see them ever coming back as big as before with Android, same for LG. The high end Android market is controlled by HTC and Samsung pretty much.
Just as a consumer i rather see Nokia to bring it's own new OS as they still got the weight for it and while Android might ok for quick return MeeGo potential for Nokia is much much bigger. Android on my GS is by no means bad but still not what i want. Somehow i think i'm talking to a wall or a bot reading your comments though...
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2010-12-13
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Originally Posted by lanwellon
That pretty much sums it up! The new Qt framework will mean better games - with better graphics!
Are you quoting Nokia's data zbout ovi store?
Besides, to use VM is a very wise idea.
Just like Nokia use Qt to let more apps run on MeeGo & Symbian.
By using Dalvik Java VM, it become easier for app development.
Android then get a big bang of apps.
Actually, Nokia is noe doing exactly the same thing,
but the tool is not VM, but Qt.
So, Android using Dalvik is a wise decision to get apps quickly.
And for Apps need more resource/efficiency, developers can use C to develpe the app directly, the efficiency is higher than Java.
And stupidly easy to port from/to Sybmian/Maemo.
In addition Meego is not just a UI - it's a whole new OS.
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2010-12-13
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Originally Posted by rash.m2k
The problem is :
That pretty much sums it up! The new Qt framework will mean better games - with better graphics!
And stupidly easy to port from/to Sybmian/Maemo.
In addition Meego is not just a UI - it's a whole new OS.
Nokia is 2 years behind Android.
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2010-12-13
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Originally Posted by onethreealpha
It does not matter where I works.
Dude works for google
just trying to drum up business for the boss
Sony Ericsson sold out to Google. They've lost their individuality and succumbed to the "clone-ification" of the "smart" phone market.
They lost control over the OS that runs on their phones and they way in which it handles their customers' information and their won capacity to independently update their devices without the OK form Big Brother.
yep go Android. that'll really make you stand out in the crowd
or perhaps you work for Huawei?
they have an interest in Google/android.... amongst other things
Actually, I worked in food industry, making meat products for eating.
Watching IT news is my hobby and I am using a Nokia N900 now.
Before N900, I used N95 and 5310XM.
So, I am a Nokia fan. But that does not mean I will not point out the mistakes of Nokia.
About the topic, Sony Ericssion use Symbian UIQ and S60 v5 for their smartphone OS, the difference is SE is a share holder of Symbian foundation. And now SE is not a share holder of Android. Google is the boss.
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2010-12-13
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Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur
That would depend on the nature of the adopters. Much of the development of linux is funded by companies with a stake in linux, and not by voluntary hairy hackers living in their parents' basement [1][2]. If Nokia drops Meego and instead promotes their next fad - Megone (TM) - would there be anyone to pickup the pieces? And no, Intel doesn't count since you don't want to carry a 2kg battery with your 100gm "Intel powered" phone.
The problem with that logic is that even if Nokia does drop it, it won't matter. There's still the Linux Foundation, Intel, and every other large scale adopter. Even if Nokia never put out another MeeGo product again, everyone else still probably will.
[1] An overused stereotype but fun
[2] I appreciate and value the contributions of voluntary hackers (hairy or otherwise)
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2010-12-13
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Originally Posted by lanwellon
You should go and buy an Android smartphone from your nearest local manufacturer, and then become happy, balanced Android user. Not sure what you are doing here, given that it is pretty clear that Meego is not Android.
Why not ? Nokia should do the exactly what Motorola is doing now ! Go Android !
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2010-12-13
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Originally Posted by lanwellon
There has been a definite shift in that direction, in fact, the whole point of the Qt SDK and the recent/ongoing retooling for Qt Quick is to make a solid, appealing base for developers.
It is the developers and apps that really matters.
Apple has got the most support from developers and have many great apps.
What is Nokia doing now ?
Originally Posted by lanwellon
Err, it's exactly as you say - Nokia kept developing Maemo 6 and did not change the package management system.
Just discussing the problem,
I think NOKIA should keep developing the Maemo 6
but not change the package manage system to please Intel
Intel did not change the package manage system on their tablet.
it is a waste of time and time is the key in the smartphone market.
When N9 released, all is too late !
Originally Posted by lanwellon
Android was very much in it's infancy 2 years ago. But it undoubtedly is all the rage today. And that's why MeeGo will try to leapfrog it
The problem is :
Nokia is 2 years behind Android.
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This recent bit of news said that "Over 2010, there have been more than 1.5 million downloads of the Qt SDK and more than 400,000 new developers have signed up with Forum Nokia over the last year."
If even 1% of those devs put out a halfdecent app... well, I'm looking forward to it...