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2011-01-21 , 13:27
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Originally Posted by try-alls View Post
his suposed dislike of linux is a bit backwards as mac is *nix based just a very backwards one (i heard most stuff is installed to var not usr like every other distro)
but at the end o the day he's a pleb an deserves every bit o abuse ya can throw at him
Mac OS X is not *nix based, it is a fully certified Unix system which conforms to the Unix 03 product standard specifications http://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/xy.htm. It is not a "distro" as you call it.

GNU/Linux is a Unix-like operating system with the Linux kernel forming the central part of each distro or distribution.
 

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2011-01-21 , 13:28
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Originally Posted by try-alls View Post
never used anything from apple an prob never will
however the only thing i like bout the iphone/pods is the ui controls after watchin my mate do all the pinch to zoom an various other gestures
Multitouch is nice, its not only on iphones though
 

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Originally Posted by James_Littler View Post
Multitouch is nice, its not only on iphones though
They're still the only one doing it right though.

Here's hoping that Android (and the rest) can step up their game (and not get knocked back by patents).
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Originally Posted by philheaton View Post
Mac OS X is not *nix based, it is a fully certified Unix system which conforms to the Unix 03 product standard specifications http://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/xy.htm. It is not a "distro" as you call it.

GNU/Linux is a Unix-like operating system with the Linux kernel forming the central part of each distro or distribution.
Actually, it's based heavily on the open-source BSD, which itself is based on UNIX. (ref; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XNU) Apple surrounded the kernel with lots of their own apps. I think that probably qualifies as a BSD "distro". Note that BSD is also a fully certified UNIX system, too. By the by, the term *NIX includes UNIX-like as well as UNIX derived alike (ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*NIX).
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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
Actually, it's based heavily on the open-source BSD, which itself is based on UNIX. (ref; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XNU)
knew that...although the kernel is Mach not BSD so, no its not a BSD distro.

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Note that BSD is also a fully certified UNIX system, too.
...knew that too...

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By the by, the term *NIX includes UNIX-like as well as UNIX derived alike (ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*NIX)
...and that. My point was Mac OS X is not UNIX based; it IS UNIX.
 

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2011-01-26 , 11:53
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knew that...although the kernel is Mach not BSD so, no its not a BSD distro.

...and that. My point was Mac OS X is not UNIX based; it IS UNIX.
You don't really read, do you? MacOS isn't UNIX. It isn't UNIX any more than BSD is UNIX. BSD is not UNIX either. It's UNIX derived. BSD forked off of UNIX a long time ago, so they're not one and the same. UNIX still exists separately from BSD. Every carefully worded and accurate article makes sure to point out that MacOS X is UNIX-based... not UNIX. (refer to the articles I cited above and also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X)

I will concede on one point of miswording on my part, though. MacOS is actually running the XNU kernel. Period. The SNU kernel is MAINLY based on BSD and based in PART on portions of Mach--so we're both right, actually. It's a BSD and Mach kernel mishmash.. so it isn't really a distro for BSD so much as a distro (collection of kernel with commands and applications for a complete and usable operating system) for XNU.
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2011-02-04 , 23:52
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You cannot seriously be quoting wikipedia as a reliable source? Sorry but Mac OS X 10.5 10.6 Leopard and Snow are about as UNIX as you're going to get.
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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
You don't really read, do you? MacOS isn't UNIX. It isn't UNIX any more than BSD is UNIX. BSD is not UNIX either. It's UNIX derived. BSD forked off of UNIX a long time ago, so they're not one and the same. UNIX still exists separately from BSD. Every carefully worded and accurate article makes sure to point out that MacOS X is UNIX-based... not UNIX. (refer to the articles I cited above and also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X)
Sorry,but Mac OS X is UNIX (R) (along with OS/390 which isn't even derived from UNIX code); the UNIX trademark is now owned by The Open Group, and they apply it to their SUS and license it for certified conforming products.

UNIX has multiple meanings, and while some of them certainly would exclude OS X (and include other UNIXen not conforming to any version of the SUS), arguing that someone is wrong or "doesn't read" when they're going by one well-established definition, just makes you look like a jackass. Especially so when the definition they're using (even though it's one I don't particularly like) is the one that carries the most legal force.

EDIT: I was looking back through the thread (which I hadn't read as closely as perhaps I should have), and saw that philheaton already linked to The Open Group's registry like I did. So, Dan... "You don't really read, do you?"
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