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2007-07-02
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It's funny how similar the iPhone dialogs are to those about the 770 and N800. 
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2007-07-05
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So whats the current status, what can the iPhone do that the N800 can't, except the obvious take cell phone calls... What makes the iPhone better, is there anything?
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2007-07-05
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What can it do that the N800 cannot? It can sync with PIM applications. That's a biggie.
Other than that, there isn't anything major that I can think of that the iPhone does that the N800 does. HOWEVER, the appeal of the iPhone doesn't necessarily lie in the fact that it can do absolutely everything, but that it does a lot of very important things very well and in a very slick and easy to use interface.
For example, the web browser is infinitely more usable than the N800 browser. It's slicker, more responsible, easier to navigate. The text input is considerably better than the N800. The navigation around the iPhone is very slick, very easy to use and very well designed.
The iPhone is an example of what Apple does best. It develops a functional product that has a user interface design par excellence.
Other than that, there isn't anything major that I can think of that the iPhone does that the N800 does. HOWEVER, the appeal of the iPhone doesn't necessarily lie in the fact that it can do absolutely everything, but that it does a lot of very important things very well and in a very slick and easy to use interface.
For example, the web browser is infinitely more usable than the N800 browser. It's slicker, more responsible, easier to navigate. The text input is considerably better than the N800. The navigation around the iPhone is very slick, very easy to use and very well designed.
The iPhone is an example of what Apple does best. It develops a functional product that has a user interface design par excellence.
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2007-07-05
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Originally Posted by kakos
an application was developped to sync. refer to google calendar is there a turnaround in the active thread.
What can it do that the N800 cannot? It can sync with PIM applications. That's a biggie.
Other than that, there isn't anything major that I can think of that the iPhone does that the N800 does. HOWEVER, the appeal of the iPhone doesn't necessarily lie in the fact that it can do absolutely everything, but that it does a lot of very important things very well and in a very slick and easy to use interface.
For example, the web browser is infinitely more usable than the N800 browser. It's slicker, more responsible, easier to navigate. The text input is considerably better than the N800. The navigation around the iPhone is very slick, very easy to use and very well designed.
The iPhone is an example of what Apple does best. It develops a functional product that has a user interface design par excellence.
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2007-07-05
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Originally Posted by testerj
Easy.
So whats the current status, what can the iPhone do that the N800 can't, except the obvious take cell phone calls... What makes the iPhone better, is there anything?
The interface actually looks like its from 2007.
When you scroll, it doesn't tear and look like doodoo
It can actually play high quality video (640x480 h.264)
The media player is actually fast, and easy to navigate.
The email client isn't a peice of crap.
YouTube works perfectly. And its actually superior to the flash stream, encoded in h.264.
Typing on it is way faster.
Its 11.5mm thick and can surf the web for 7 hours, or watch 9 hours of video.
It syncs contacts, and calendar (omg lol)
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2007-07-05
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I bought the 8GB iphone. It's a very slick device. The functions that it was designed to do, it does well. Bluetooth is crippled since it can only hook up to a headset, you cannot sync the device through bluetooth or wifi.
Does it replace the N800? Not in all tasks. I like the web surfing experience I get with the Iphone and the touch screen is more responsive than the N800.
It's a little sad that this device will have to compete with the N800, since there are a lot less people into the whole Maemo Linux enviornment. The target consumer for the Iphone has a much larger population on the N800. I am afraid that development for the N800 will suffer.
A lot of people do complain about the device, and I don't truly understand their gripes since I am not in the same situation as they are. The iphone just simply works as it was shown in the Keynote and commercials. People probably don't think that it is worth the 500 or 600 dollar price tag for its limited functions. Then again, is any phone or internet tablet worth $600? We always want the most for our money, and a device that we can enjoy. I had that same feeling with the N800 when I got it, now I have that feeling with the iphone. I am sure in another year, some company will make a device I will crave and spend insane amounts of money for... Maybe even a google phone.. the gphone?
Getting back on the topic a little, I hardly consider the iphone a flop, its seems to be a winner. The hardest thing to do is to get normal people to part with their money... and apple did that.. amazingly.
Does it replace the N800? Not in all tasks. I like the web surfing experience I get with the Iphone and the touch screen is more responsive than the N800.
It's a little sad that this device will have to compete with the N800, since there are a lot less people into the whole Maemo Linux enviornment. The target consumer for the Iphone has a much larger population on the N800. I am afraid that development for the N800 will suffer.
A lot of people do complain about the device, and I don't truly understand their gripes since I am not in the same situation as they are. The iphone just simply works as it was shown in the Keynote and commercials. People probably don't think that it is worth the 500 or 600 dollar price tag for its limited functions. Then again, is any phone or internet tablet worth $600? We always want the most for our money, and a device that we can enjoy. I had that same feeling with the N800 when I got it, now I have that feeling with the iphone. I am sure in another year, some company will make a device I will crave and spend insane amounts of money for... Maybe even a google phone.. the gphone?
Getting back on the topic a little, I hardly consider the iphone a flop, its seems to be a winner. The hardest thing to do is to get normal people to part with their money... and apple did that.. amazingly.
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2007-07-05
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Maybe if Nokia held a big convention and advertised they where going to announce an amazing new product and held a big presentation that was picked up by the networks everyone would have gone out and purchased the n800
This is probably because Nokia's ideal customers are in europe and other countries where the cell phone has seemingly been more popular...
At this point this is probably the last Nokia device I purchase ever and it's probably at least my 3rd or 4th expensive Nokia device that I have purchased...
I did like my ipod I didn't go nowhere without it, but after I lost it, I didn't care to replace it.
I love gaming, I use the internet often and I spend quite a bit of time on the phone, would I like a device that can do all 3, YES!
Is there a true solution out there that covers all 3 in a handheld device that offers a truely user friendly operating system that developers also feel excited about ... personally I do not think so...
Are we close to it... YES.....
If some phone company wants to hire me and pay me a decent salary I would love to help design the next generation phone... but for that to happen, the company would need to be very open to what people really want.
NO STRINGS HANDHELD DEVICE, non proprietary power/usb connections, properly tested, diagonally flips out to a fully functional screen, bluetooth connectivity with nothing disabled.... give the consumer the device they really want.... put a $800 price tag on it and I will buy it, even $1000...
It's not about the money, it's about giving people what they want...
This is probably because Nokia's ideal customers are in europe and other countries where the cell phone has seemingly been more popular...
At this point this is probably the last Nokia device I purchase ever and it's probably at least my 3rd or 4th expensive Nokia device that I have purchased...
I did like my ipod I didn't go nowhere without it, but after I lost it, I didn't care to replace it.
I love gaming, I use the internet often and I spend quite a bit of time on the phone, would I like a device that can do all 3, YES!
Is there a true solution out there that covers all 3 in a handheld device that offers a truely user friendly operating system that developers also feel excited about ... personally I do not think so...
Are we close to it... YES.....
If some phone company wants to hire me and pay me a decent salary I would love to help design the next generation phone... but for that to happen, the company would need to be very open to what people really want.
NO STRINGS HANDHELD DEVICE, non proprietary power/usb connections, properly tested, diagonally flips out to a fully functional screen, bluetooth connectivity with nothing disabled.... give the consumer the device they really want.... put a $800 price tag on it and I will buy it, even $1000...
It's not about the money, it's about giving people what they want...
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2007-07-05
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Originally Posted by thomasdawes
I bought the 8GB iphone. It's a very slick device....
...Getting back on the topic a little, I hardly consider the iphone a flop, its seems to be a winner. The hardest thing to do is to get normal people to part with their money... and apple did that.. amazingly.
I agree. As of today, 1,000,000 units sold. Hardly a flop....
I can't use the thing (company provided carrier). If I could
I pro'lly wouldn't buy it @ $600. Mostly because of what it could do but wont by design.
The N800 @ $400 still can't do a lot with the hardware it provides but things keep getting better. Granted I sometimes feel I paid $400 for the privilege of being a Nokia beta tester. And, without full access to, or at least knowledge of its API's, independent development may be limited to how many different ways we can skin the media player
... but at least with the N800 there is hope!A couple of things are now evident because of the iPhone.
First, Apple has shown just how much average consumers en masse are willing to spend on a freakin' phone.
This raises the bar sadly, just when competition and volume were starting to drive prices down.
And second, after the newness wears off and the honeymoon is over, there will be a million+ people out there scratchin' their heads and saying; "Is that it? What was I thinking?"
Last edited by YoDude; 2007-07-05 at 23:49.
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2007-07-06
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Originally Posted by YoDude
I doubt very much that initial sales have been to 'average consumers'.
First, Apple has shown just how much average consumers en masse are willing to spend on a freakin' phone.
This raises the bar sadly, just when competition and volume were starting to drive prices down.
And second, after the newness wears off and the honeymoon is over, there will be a million+ people out there scratchin' their heads and saying; "Is that it? What was I thinking?"
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2007-07-06
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Originally Posted by testerj
Well said! I could not agree more.
It's not about the money, it's about giving people what they want...