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2011-03-25 , 15:46
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Originally Posted by davidnjohnson View Post
In response to switch, I don't take offense to anything you just said. I believe you were simply looking out for me and trying to give useful advice. Thanks and I completely understand what you are saying and where you're coming from.

Ummm for a good chunk of time I have been considering the option of if I would need to bring on someone with years of experience with this sort of thing or if I could simply spend weeks back to back grinding on google ya know.

At this point I'm going to continue my research - couldn't hurt right. But at the same time check our my network of entrepreneur friends both locally and on the www to see if anyone is looking to join up.

Again I appreciate the honesty, don't have time to beat around the bush these days!

Do you know if android uses the same kernel/hardware interaction as Linux? If I understand correctly android is based on Linux but then it's also based on java so I'm not sure there.
If you are seriously "building a tablet that I will sell on a large scale.", you need to hire someone or some people with knowledge. You will not be able to do it asking questions on a mobile phone forum.
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2011-03-25 , 16:12
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It was close, but coming in just under the wire on this grey, Friday morning, the

"Most Clueless OP of the Week"

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davidnjohnson

Thank you all for playing. See you next week!
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2011-03-25 , 16:26
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You could look into the Cordia project, search for it on this forum. They're currently working on using Maemo's hildon ui on top of meego, it might suit your purposes when it's done, or you could help fund it!
 

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Android runs the Linux kernel but it uses Java for software. It's not xor.

Where did you get this idea from D:
 
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Everyone on this thread needs to stop being cynical. OP sounds like a newbie to the tablet market. That is not a reason why he should be ridiculed. Asking this forum is truly unconventional but it is possibly one of the first few steps of due diligence.

To the OP: I don't know what your target market segment is, but if I were you I would go with either Meego or Android.
Maemo has at least two closed source components that are deal breakers: the graphics and telephony stacks.
Besides, it is unlikely that Nokia will support Maemo any more.

So to summarise: Android or Meego.
My personal preference: Meego.
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Hang on a minute here, YOU are designing a tablet?.

What pcb design proggy are you using? and just where will you get the protortype built? and how are you going to source single batch components from to build this protortype tablet?.

Oh i got many questions like how are you going to actually solder down such components as the cpu for instance, oh and what cpu will you be thinking of using? (among the many other multi functional components).

Are you designing a single or multi layer pcb(s)?.

Have you got a team of software designers working for you?.

This is for sure a windup thread.

PS the answers to this post will be interesting to read i am sure.
 
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Originally Posted by uvatbc View Post
Everyone on this thread needs to stop being cynical. OP sounds like a newbie to the tablet market. That is not a reason why he should be ridiculed. Asking this forum is truly unconventional but it is possibly one of the first few steps of due diligence.

To the OP: I don't know what your target market segment is, but if I were you I would go with either Meego or Android.
Maemo has at least two closed source components that are deal breakers: the graphics and telephony stacks.
Besides, it is unlikely that Nokia will support Maemo any more.

So to summarise: Android or Meego.
My personal preference: Meego.

I think it would be cruel to lead him into thoughts that this will be feasible. He got confused over java and Linux and asked if there were closed sourced components. It doesn't seem like he knows the first thing about software or hardware development. This is a massive task, I've done LFS multiple times and made basic electronic items but I've never considered myself up to scratch to pull of making an entire tablet from nothing at all
 
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I think it would be cruel to lead him into thoughts that this will be feasible. He got confused over java and Linux and asked if there were closed sourced components. It doesn't seem like he knows the first thing about software or hardware development. This is a massive task, I've done LFS multiple times and made basic electronic items but I've never considered myself up to scratch to pull of making an entire tablet from nothing at all
I don't think he is planning on doing it all on his own. If he is then I agree that it is an uphill battle most likely to fail even before it gets off the ground.
I would like to give OP the benefit of doubt.
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2011-03-25 , 17:20
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Originally Posted by uvatbc View Post
Everyone on this thread needs to stop being cynical. OP sounds like a newbie to the tablet market. That is not a reason why he should be ridiculed. Asking this forum is truly unconventional but it is possibly one of the first few steps of due diligence.

To the OP: I don't know what your target market segment is, but if I were you I would go with either Meego or Android.
Maemo has at least two closed source components that are deal breakers: the graphics and telephony stacks.
Besides, it is unlikely that Nokia will support Maemo any more.

So to summarise: Android or Meego.
My personal preference: Meego.
Thanks for finally understanding where I'm coming from and not being a a**hole about it. I'm seriously just trying to absorb any and all information I can and like you said this asking this forum has proved to be unconventional to say the least.

Market segments: Rural areas in South America for poor children so they can use this as a tool for learning. Places in the US for low income households.

Thanks for the tip, I am certainly looking at both options right now.


Originally Posted by abill_uk View Post
Hang on a minute here, YOU are designing a tablet?.

What pcb design proggy are you using? and just where will you get the protortype built? and how are you going to source single batch components from to build this protortype tablet?.

Oh i got many questions like how are you going to actually solder down such components as the cpu for instance, oh and what cpu will you be thinking of using? (among the many other multi functional components).

Are you designing a single or multi layer pcb(s)?.

Have you got a team of software designers working for you?.

This is for sure a windup thread.

PS the answers to this post will be interesting to read i am sure.
Believe it or not those are things I actually have covered. Please continue asking me questions though, I actually appreciate it. I am hoping you will ask a question that I haven't already considered so you will save me the trouble of running into that problem later on.

Originally Posted by Captwheeto View Post
I think it would be cruel to lead him into thoughts that this will be feasible. He got confused over java and Linux and asked if there were closed sourced components. It doesn't seem like he knows the first thing about software or hardware development. This is a massive task, I've done LFS multiple times and made basic electronic items but I've never considered myself up to scratch to pull of making an entire tablet from nothing at all
I think its silly for you to assume that just because I am not an expert now that I am destined to fail. All of you make it sound as if you popped out the womb an expert on this subject, but no, all of you had to learn and ask questions to get to where you are now. I won't be deterred by any of your snide or condescending comments I will just continue learning from them until I know what I need to know (which may be volumes and volumes of information - I accept that I may know very little at this point but I am on the path of finding out more). I'm sorry you don't consider yourself able to make a tablet...sucks for you..

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I don't think he is planning on doing it all on his own. If he is then I agree that it is an uphill battle most likely to fail even before it gets off the ground.
I would like to give OP the benefit of doubt.
Um I wouldn't say I am planning on doing it on my own or am planning to hire someone. At this point still figuring things out. But things are looking extremely likely such that I will end up bringing on a software engineer to work with my business partner and I on this product. We already have someone in mind and are getting in contact with him so to all those who think I need help, don't fret. Thanks again to all those who have helped me so far.
 

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Originally Posted by davidnjohnson View Post
Believe it or not those are things I actually have covered. Please continue asking me questions though, I actually appreciate it. I am hoping you will ask a question that I haven't already considered so you will save me the trouble of running into that problem later on.

Um I wouldn't say I am planning on doing it on my own or am planning to hire someone. At this point still figuring things out. But things are looking extremely likely such that I will end up bringing on a software engineer to work with my business partner and I on this product. We already have someone in mind and are getting in contact with him so to all those who think I need help, don't fret. Thanks again to all those who have helped me so far.
Well you skated by every question i asked with the answer "Believe it or not those are things I actually have covered".

Believe it or not you have actually got some very intelligent folk on this forum so unless you are prepared to share your experiance of the actual design and it's problems, i think you will most likely get ridiculed on here.
 
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