and the mainreason for that is qml was not ready when n900 was alive. And btw you must be really blind if you havent see all qt apps comming to n9!? And also alot backported to n900 thanks to mer and maemo5 cssu.

qt will change alot to the better 2012. I am sure even androiddevs will use it let wpfail use theyr own crap so it fails.

You realize if WP fails then the Nokia Microsoft partnership will fail and ultimately Nokia's smartphone division will fail. Whatever marketshare/mindshare Symbian has is getting swallowed up by iOS and Android at an ever increasing rate. For atleast the next three years, it's in every Nokia fans best interest that WP is a success with the help of Nokia. With three major OSes for smartphones each with roughly 25-35% marketshare/mindshare, Nokia would have the opportunity to release a FOSS “disruption” after splitting with MS. Hopefully the MS Nokia partnership can give Nokia the opportunity to have a dominant global marketshare/mindshare again.

One potential benefit of getting NDK on WP is Firefox port. Microsoft knows that, and they use the restriction to ban competition. So I doubt they'll ever release it, until they'll realize that their bans are making their own platform only worse. Bad for them anyway.

Why would MS put Qt on WP when .NET is pretty strong in the dev community?
The new WP is a platform they're strict about.

Also of note: TouchDevelop

The answer is obvious for those who value freedom - choice. But Microsoft doesn't care about choice (be it developer's or user's).

If they are successful with WP, why would they want to create a FOSS device? plus wasn't the whole point of the partnership for nokia to spend less money on R & D?

but if QT was coming to WP sure why not, means just more devs,,,

What's to stop Nokia regaining its independence if the MS-Nokia partnership fails? In fact the best thing that can happen now is for Lumia to fail quickly and spectacularly so that the MS mole Elop can be booted out before Nokia sustain too much damage.

Nokia has shafted aside its own promising MeeGo OS in favour of MIcrosoft's. It does not control the hardware specs or OS of WP7, is unable to distinguish its phones from other WP7 manufacturers and earns nothing from the app store.

However Nokia's dalliance with MS may be fatal. A Wall St. consultant which regularly compiles a list of brands that are going to disappear in the near-term has named Nokia on its latest list. This company has been prescient in the past and accurately predicted the death of T-Mobile.

http://247wallst.com/2011/06/22/247-...ear-in-2012/4/

If MS (or others) do not officially support Qt it will always be second choice behind native toolkits. On the other hand its probably easier to mimick native look and feel on mobile than on desktop, e.g. with qt quick components..

It seems though nokia has no interest in doing that themselves, i.e. officially only desktop platforms are being supported.

Um..I don't think they will be able to switch their whole product line-up back to meego in time. Nokia needs to succeed with wp7, and if they do they'll probably be the only major wp7 handset maker.

I'm still not really convinced of this partnership since its gonna be difficult for nokia to be truly innovative without their own platform.

Its all about long-term goals and business.
If the Nokia-Microsoft deal falls flat, I'm certain Nokia will go the way of RIM and then follow Palm's pathway. They just dont have the resources, the cash, manpower or the time to become relevant in the ecosystem wars.

Windows Phone will still do fine, its slowly catching up (there's Mango, then the HTC TITAN, and now 50,000 apps).

Nokia NEED to succeed in this deal to recover, much more than Microsoft, but that doesnt mean Microsoft isn't benefiting. In fact, Microsoft wants to purchase Nokia but they dont want to make a bad investment. All due to Nokia's SIZE, so instead they are taking a half-measure and using them instead.


So what's really happening? I think Nokia and Microsoft are collaborating heavily behind the scenes. Nokia is handing out a lot of control to them (OS, WP requirements, etc) and also promising to nurture and grow WP7 to be competitive. Ofcourse Nokia's asking for enough profit to continue their business, but they would need to do more to be relevant.

And that got me thinking, not so long ago Microsoft axed an amount of its own developers, and Nokia layed off an even larger amount....perhaps Nokia developers will join Microsoft within the collaboration in hopes of expanding their [Nokia] resources.

And that leaves a few things: patents, spectrum, and Qt.
Its established Qt is mobile friendly so perhaps the collaboration is to introduce DK of Qt-Metro natively for Windows8 "apps" (arm and x86) and allow Windows "programs" to be made in the traditional .NET

(sidenote: silverlight is doing horribly)

That makes a lot of sense for Microsoft, and it also means more opportunity for Nokia to do business (since they REALLY need it).

IMHO it doesn't really matter whether you can develop with Qt for WP or not.

As long as you cannot run your own software on your own phone without paying a yearly ransom to Microsoft, WP is not attractive for developers coming from the open world.