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2008-02-19
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Originally Posted by PinCushionQueen
This sounds like a great opportunity to make a how-to (in the wiki perhaps?) and collect all of the scripts, shortcuts, hotkeys, and workarounds in one place. I think there are a bunch of people out there who would be very grateful to have a single "KDE post-install how-to" on setting up KDE to work well on the N800 and the N810.
I must say that completely agree with Sungrove!With a bit of effort KDE can be made ready for everyday use (especially on the N810). I personally haven't used Maemo at all in over a month. I use KDE exclusively as my desktop environment. I did have to grab a few scripts and set up some keyboard shortcuts and hotkeys but it's all been well worth the effort..
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Any "workarounds" (eg: using a script mapped to a button for right click or moving windows) that I may have to employ are NOTHING compared to what I gain by using KDE.
As Sungrove pointed out there are quite a few posts on suggestions for optimizing KDE.
penguinbait, this is something I'd like to see in the FAQ:I confess that I haven't done all my searching homework; that said, it isn't clear from this thread's big initial post whether the deb install is run as an application from the Hildon desktop. Once the debs are installed, do you just choose the "KDE" menu choice and your hildon desktop is replaced by KDE? And then when you're done, you go to the KDE menu and choose "log out" / "shut down" or something, and your Hildon desktop comes back? Or do you have to reboot and choose KDE from a boot menu? Thanks!
Last edited by qole; 2008-02-19 at 20:00.
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2008-02-22
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#293
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(crickets chirping)
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2008-02-22
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Originally Posted by qole
This sounds like a great opportunity to make a how-to (in the wiki perhaps?) and collect all of the scripts, shortcuts, hotkeys, and workarounds in one place. I think there are a bunch of people out there who would be very grateful to have a single "KDE post-install how-to" on setting up KDE to work well on the N800 and the N810.
I confess that I haven't done all my searching homework; that said, it isn't clear from this thread's big initial post whether the deb install is run as an application from the Hildon desktop. Once the debs are installed, do you just choose the "KDE" menu choice and your hildon desktop is replaced by KDE? And then when you're done, you go to the KDE menu and choose "log out" / "shut down" or something, and your Hildon desktop comes back? Or do you have to reboot and choose KDE from a boot menu? Thanks!
do you just choose the "KDE" menu choice and your hildon desktop is replaced by KDE?
yes
And then when you're done, you go to the KDE menu and choose "log out" and your Hildon desktop comes back?
yes
as for wiki, have at it, once your up
sorry, chirp chirp
I think there are a bunch of people out there who would be very grateful to have a single "KDE post-install how-to"
The main
reason that has not happened, is because there will be another version, in which I will clear some things up, with more safeguards on the install.
The main problem, is well you know life, jobs, family, getting my wisdom teeth pulled, flipping my car, having to find a new one. life happens... If you read the first post, I clearly state this is a hack, and things can go wrong. I rely on this community to help each other, as it has helped me plenty.
good luck!
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2008-02-23
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#295
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Sorry penguinbait, I wasn't suggesting you make the wiki. I just had those FAQ questions for you.
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2008-02-24
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Problems with KDE installation.
This is my first posting, so please be kind.
After downloading kde .deb files and the .tar.bz2 file I quickly (too quickly) started to installing from mmc1. Everything went smoothly, then I started KDE from the EXTRAS and didnot get past the opening blue screen. Then I spent hours searching the forum for answers, and yes, my KDE358.tar.bz2 file was too small. 250MB instead of 294MB.
Since then I managed to download the complete version and I tried install again. Did get a message, do you want to update, when I was trying to install and it quit. Then I tried uninstalling, to start all over again. Only one left is KDE-mmc1, cannot uninstall. When I try to get my mmc1 card out to load all the files again or when I connect to PC with cable, get message: unable to connect, memory card in use. Also: memory card in use, removing card may damage data etc. No program seems to be running on the n800.
Guess I will really need some help from a kind forum member. Good thing, all other applications on n800 are so far working.
Please help, Stan
This is my first posting, so please be kind.
After downloading kde .deb files and the .tar.bz2 file I quickly (too quickly) started to installing from mmc1. Everything went smoothly, then I started KDE from the EXTRAS and didnot get past the opening blue screen. Then I spent hours searching the forum for answers, and yes, my KDE358.tar.bz2 file was too small. 250MB instead of 294MB.
Since then I managed to download the complete version and I tried install again. Did get a message, do you want to update, when I was trying to install and it quit. Then I tried uninstalling, to start all over again. Only one left is KDE-mmc1, cannot uninstall. When I try to get my mmc1 card out to load all the files again or when I connect to PC with cable, get message: unable to connect, memory card in use. Also: memory card in use, removing card may damage data etc. No program seems to be running on the n800.
Guess I will really need some help from a kind forum member. Good thing, all other applications on n800 are so far working.
Please help, Stan
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2008-02-24
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Originally Posted by stan800
Problems with KDE installation.
This is my first posting, so please be kind.
After downloading kde .deb files and the .tar.bz2 file I quickly (too quickly) started to installing from mmc1. Everything went smoothly, then I started KDE from the EXTRAS and didnot get past the opening blue screen. Then I spent hours searching the forum for answers, and yes, my KDE358.tar.bz2 file was too small. 250MB instead of 294MB.
Since then I managed to download the complete version and I tried install again. Did get a message, do you want to update, when I was trying to install and it quit. Then I tried uninstalling, to start all over again. Only one left is KDE-mmc1, cannot uninstall. When I try to get my mmc1 card out to load all the files again or when I connect to PC with cable, get message: unable to connect, memory card in use. Also: memory card in use, removing card may damage data etc. No program seems to be running on the n800.
Guess I will really need some help from a kind forum member. Good thing, all other applications on n800 are so far working.
Please help, Stan
OK, so much info, where to begin?
If you are trying to uninstall KDE and it is failing.
Go to application manager and uninstall it
When it fails,
In application manager, open the menu, Tools > Log
Paste the Log up here so we can see why its failing.
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As for the mmc card, once KDE in installed, it puts 2 files on your mmc card, local.img and swap.img. local.img is a mounted filesystem and swap.img is a swap file. When the N800/N810 is booted it mounts the local.img as /usr/local and enables swap. When this happens the mmc card is now in use and when using USB connection you can not mount that card because its in use.
To get around this to transfer some files, shut down n800, remove mmc card with KDE on it, boot up N800, then place in the mmc card back into the n800, then use USB.
In order to use KDE again, the mmc card MUST be in the n800 during system boot.
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To all my Maemo friends. I will no longer be monitoring any of my threads here on a regular basis. I am no longer supporting anything I did under maemo at maemo.org. If you need some help with something you can reach me at tablethacker.com or www.facebook.com/penguinbait. I have disabled my PM's here, and removed myself from Council email and Community mailing list. There has been some fun times, see you around.
To all my Maemo friends. I will no longer be monitoring any of my threads here on a regular basis. I am no longer supporting anything I did under maemo at maemo.org. If you need some help with something you can reach me at tablethacker.com or www.facebook.com/penguinbait. I have disabled my PM's here, and removed myself from Council email and Community mailing list. There has been some fun times, see you around.
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2008-02-25
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hi penguinbait,
thanks for Your respons. Since my post I managed to corrupt my 8GB card, by removing it. My fault, no question.
Here is the log after trying to uninstall kde-mmc1:
Uninstalling kde-mmc1 3.5.8-PB2
dpkg: error processing kde-mmc1 (--remove):
Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
reinstall it before attempting a removal.
Errors were encountered while processing:
kde-mmc1
this was after I corrupted my card by removing it. The problem is, I was trying to reinstall this file, but was asked if I want to update, which alwayz failed.
So now I have one corrupted card and no kde. Any idea how to fix the card?? My PC cannot see it at all.
I will not do anything else today, but will buy a new card soon. Should I download next time directly to the n800??
Sorry to bother You. This was the only problem since I got n800 two month ago, after installing many applications. Guess I was lucky.
Stan
thanks for Your respons. Since my post I managed to corrupt my 8GB card, by removing it. My fault, no question.
Here is the log after trying to uninstall kde-mmc1:
Uninstalling kde-mmc1 3.5.8-PB2
dpkg: error processing kde-mmc1 (--remove):
Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
reinstall it before attempting a removal.
Errors were encountered while processing:
kde-mmc1
this was after I corrupted my card by removing it. The problem is, I was trying to reinstall this file, but was asked if I want to update, which alwayz failed.
So now I have one corrupted card and no kde. Any idea how to fix the card?? My PC cannot see it at all.
I will not do anything else today, but will buy a new card soon. Should I download next time directly to the n800??
Sorry to bother You. This was the only problem since I got n800 two month ago, after installing many applications. Guess I was lucky.
Stan
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2008-02-25
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Hi Penguinbait,
just a quick one. My card allowed me to format it in n800 after 3 hours, so I started again. Transferred all four files to the blank card. Before inst. I checked installed aplications, and only found KDE-mmc1, which I cannot uninstall or delete.
Installed local-mmc1.deb. Next kde-3.5.8. tried to install, but was asked to update, which soon failed. Now there is a very long log file in application man. Don't know if anybody wants to look at it. Many new files were created on the mmc1 card. Since I cannot delete, could I format again??
Thanks, Stan
just a quick one. My card allowed me to format it in n800 after 3 hours, so I started again. Transferred all four files to the blank card. Before inst. I checked installed aplications, and only found KDE-mmc1, which I cannot uninstall or delete.
Installed local-mmc1.deb. Next kde-3.5.8. tried to install, but was asked to update, which soon failed. Now there is a very long log file in application man. Don't know if anybody wants to look at it. Many new files were created on the mmc1 card. Since I cannot delete, could I format again??
Thanks, Stan
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2008-02-26
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Originally Posted by stan800
for fastest help, please paste your log files here
Hi Penguinbait,
just a quick one. My card allowed me to format it in n800 after 3 hours, so I started again. Transferred all four files to the blank card. Before inst. I checked installed aplications, and only found KDE-mmc1, which I cannot uninstall or delete.
Installed local-mmc1.deb. Next kde-3.5.8. tried to install, but was asked to update, which soon failed. Now there is a very long log file in application man. Don't know if anybody wants to look at it. Many new files were created on the mmc1 card. Since I cannot delete, could I format again??
Thanks, Stan
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To all my Maemo friends. I will no longer be monitoring any of my threads here on a regular basis. I am no longer supporting anything I did under maemo at maemo.org. If you need some help with something you can reach me at tablethacker.com or www.facebook.com/penguinbait. I have disabled my PM's here, and removed myself from Council email and Community mailing list. There has been some fun times, see you around.
To all my Maemo friends. I will no longer be monitoring any of my threads here on a regular basis. I am no longer supporting anything I did under maemo at maemo.org. If you need some help with something you can reach me at tablethacker.com or www.facebook.com/penguinbait. I have disabled my PM's here, and removed myself from Council email and Community mailing list. There has been some fun times, see you around.
any suggestions?
(sorry if this has been suggested before)