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#291
wow, so much for standards...
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hmm, verizon. isnt that the operator that keeps crippling phones they allow onto their network, when it comes to other connectivity options?
 
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hmm, verizon. isnt that the operator that keeps crippling phones they allow onto their network, when it comes to other connectivity options?
Allegedly they opened up their network last year. No further comment.
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its when i read about stuff like that im truly glad i live where i live, even tho it at times seems overly restrictive and controlled...
 
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Allegedly they opened up their network last year. No further comment.
They announced last year; we have to wait to officially cry foul. Even so, it is now widely suspected that the unregistered UEs will not get the same rates as the registered UEs. The point is, the highly persuasive usability arguments in favor of a NIT plus separate cell phone must yield to the commercial realities in the US.
 
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its when i read about stuff like that im truly glad i live where i live, even tho it at times seems overly restrictive and controlled...
Take heart-- with the recent US government takeover of banking, along with restrictions due to terrorism, we're getting the worst of all worlds...
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Take heart-- with the recent US government takeover of banking, along with restrictions due to terrorism, we're getting the worst of all worlds...
Now you only need a lovely inflation
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Eventually the entire phone service model will be flipped: everything will run on IP instead of the old "POTS" way or the hodge-podge we have now. Nokia would be crazy (as a corporate entity) not to get ready for that.
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If they (carriers) haven't understood that eventuality by now, then they deserve to lose business IMO.

But it sure does seem like the Big 2 (in the US) don't get it yet, doesn't it?
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A device that is connected to a data only connection using a SIP for telephony interface and built on a largely open source platform has the ability to take carriers completely out of the mix, though will make backhaul and internet service providers feel even more like the utilities they are but aren't acting like.

This is disruptive technology at its finest.

The OSiMworld conference made it clear to me that NOBODY but Nokia is getting it yet; worse, nobody else seems to be preparing for it. Lots of hot air about OpenSource, but it seems mostly ... hot air. I have other, more earthy, phrases for what seemed to be going on most of the time, with most of the other vendors, at OSiMworld, involving some form of group onanism, but I'll avoid them.

Unless something fundamental changes in the next 6 months in the mobile industry, Nokia is gonna blindside this industry with the N900. They won't know what hit 'em. There will be panic in the boardrooms, slashed prices on data plans, everyone competing to see who can give you the lowest price for TCP/IP on their network. The mobile carriers will be reduced, in one fell swoop, to mere ISPs.
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everyone, telco's, cable companies, anything that runs a wire or two way radio signal into a building or area, is a isp these days.

that american cable companies are trying to "cable tv" the net with their lobbying for a right to request payment from google and similar is just a sign that they see it coming, and is trying, just like the *AA's, to stop it from happening.

the net is the modern telegraph, and its forcing changes on all layers of society, from how me "consume" infotainment, to how we interact with each other.

im damned tempted to pack a bag, and see if i can survive as a digital nomad these days...
 
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"Now you only need a lovely inflation"

In the US, it was clear that inflation was returning even before any of these recent problems.

Another interesting thing going on here is rising productivity accompanied by lower income.

Let's see, what thread are we in? Oh, right, I hope Maemo 5 takes care of this.
 
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