Originally Posted by Texrat

I feel secure in saying my words with which you take issue were a fair interpretation of your posts on the subject. You did take an extreme contrary stance, and yes, what I took issue with was your opinion. Besides, those observations are still largely speculative at this point [here Qgil takes me to task for giving someone else grief over speculation ]

Anyway, looks like you were up to the internet opinion war challenge! Semantics at 20 paces! Fire!

Originally Posted by dansus

I visited the Nokia store today with a view to buying the N810, its been about 12 months since my first one broke and its a fantastic looking device.

I had forgotten just how good it looks, the ergonomics just work and it feels great in the hand. The thing that hit me was how small it feels for a 4.1" device and i just couldnt get my head round how it would be usable if the screen was any smaller.

Now im struggling to see how the 3.5" on the N900 is going work to work as a web tablet, but hoped to be proved wrong.

Of course the cpu on the N810 is mediocre at best and all the reasons i didnt replace my device back then came flooding back. I then showed the store staff Eldars preview and everyone, men and women were crowded round the laptop with approving noises abound.

Originally Posted by ARJWright

Folks having issues with a Maemo 5 device sporting cellular connectivity *options,* get over it; this was known for a long time and nothing about a pre-production device's review will change what has already been debated here ad nauseum.

Originally Posted by danramos

It's become OPTIONAL now? No price to pay for the cellular portion? I take issue with the way you posed that whole dismissive.

Originally Posted by sevla

I digress. Agree to disagree .

Is this the part where we go to the White House for a beer? LOL

Originally Posted by anderbr

Me too. I hope we have the option at some point for a no phone version. Like blackberry and no-cam versions.

I should wait until a formal announcement to complain, but I find myself much less excited about the n900 than I wanted to be, and was from 770->800->810.

Gone are:
Big-ish screen
$400-ish price
freedom from carrier/contract ( yeah, unlocked blah-blah )
computer friendly keyboard in favor of phone friendly one
dpad, etc.
Not to mention new generic slider-phone styling.


It's becoming more of a paris-hilton chick phone than mobile computer/internet tablet. Which is OK I guess since Nokia sells phones, but not the direction I hoped for or that got me excited about maemo to begin with.

I do like to new horsepower.
Here's to hoping for more variants soon.. maybe nokia can beat apple back to the 4.5 - 5'' tablet.

Originally Posted by ARJWright

There's a smirk in my mouth somewhere...

You don't want to use the cellular access, don't use it; you don't get the option of not having it in *this* device.

If you can make a convincing enough case for Nokia that there are enough people near-enough to the target audiences of this Maemo 5 device that a non-SIM version would be helpful, I'm pretty sure that they would not only listen, but due to some really interesting positioning as a flexible company on the supply chain, logistics, and regional side of things, be able to move.

I'd say though, look for a timeline similar to the N95 and N95 8GB though if you are pitching that.

Otherwise, find my smirk in there somewhere

Originally Posted by ARJWright

Did you happen to put your hands on the N97 while you were there?
Compare it size, keyboard, and usable screen real estate to the N810?

Please say you did, that will level out a ton of the noise in this specific thread.