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	Capt'n Corrupt	2011-04-25 , 18:10
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Originally Posted by Snoshrk

FYI:

Now that the Nook Color just got its promised update....

B&N @eBay has refurb units at a slight discount $225 w/ free shipping

That's a hard price to beat!

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	Capt'n Corrupt	2011-04-25 , 19:36
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It seems that Lenovo is releasing a 7" tablet with similar characteristics to the 10.1":

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/25/l...to-leaked-pdf/

If it has pen support, this could be very interesting...

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	Capt'n Corrupt	2011-04-25 , 20:05
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This just in.... Michael Dell thinks Android will surpass iOS for tablets:

http://www.androidcentral.com/michae...ad-tablet-king
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...googlenews_wsj

In other words, he suspects the obvious. Still it's commendable that apple has done such a large volume of sales with their single sku product. I can see why they are taking offensive aim at Samsung, which threatens to match their volume.

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	danramos	2011-04-25 , 21:55
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Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt

It has been confirmed that the US Asus Eee Transformer does in fact have GPS built in:

http://www.androidcentral.com/yes-as...-united-states

After a rather uninformed post on Engadget, the state of GPS in the Transformer was unknown. It has been confirmed to be included.

This would have been a major flaw of the system, but its a very welcome feature. Now the question remains. Asus Eee Transformer or Lenovo Thinkpad (with pen and a plethora of ports).

This is actually a particularly big deal to me. I won't buy an Android device without GPS (with the exception of that Nook Color just because it's so damned hackable and inexpensive). I've been watching and considering other tablets... and watching... and watching... and passing over them MOSTLY because they were wifi-only with NO GPS. I *LIKE* wifi-only... I DISLIKE no-GPS.

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Rebski	2011-04-25 , 22:13
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Originally Posted by danramos

This is actually a particularly big deal to me. I won't buy an Android device without GPS (with the exception of that Nook Color just because it's so damned hackable and inexpensive). I've been watching and considering other tablets... and watching... and watching... and passing over them MOSTLY because they were wifi-only with NO GPS. I *LIKE* wifi-only... I DISLIKE no-GPS.

Yes I don't understand the confusion over GPS in the Transformer, it takes pride of place in the Asus promo video. go to time position 0.50 if you are in a rush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAoRH...layer_embedded
Though I must say, I stopped checking the specs for this GPS feature and just assumed that every tablet has it. I think i should be grateful for the heads up that this is not necessarily so.

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Rebski	2011-04-25 , 22:21
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Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt

It seems as though Nvidia is aggressively trying to make good with their claim. The first Tegra 3 devices are rumored to ship this August:

http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/n...gust-20110216/

I know it was a few pages back but isn't this a big deal? I decided to hold my next tablet purchase until Honeycomb is finalised and supported.

So if I wait only a month or two longer I will also get Tegra3 (twice the power of Tegra2 ?)

Asus and others have already said they are delaying the launch of their tablets pending Honeycomb so I suspect they are in a bit of bind now with the real fear of an 'Osborne effect'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect

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	Capt'n Corrupt	2011-04-26 , 01:25
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Originally Posted by Rebski

I know it was a few pages back but isn't this a big deal? I decided to hold my next tablet purchase until Honeycomb is finalised and supported.

So if I wait only a month or two longer I will also get Tegra3 (twice the power of Tegra2 ?)

Asus and others have already said they are delaying the launch of their tablets pending Honeycomb so I suspect they are in a bit of bind now with the real fear of an 'Osborne effect'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect

I think this is a very big deal (and it's a claimed 5x performance over the T20). Check this out:

In this benchmark, the Tegra 3 surpasses a Core2duo, and is certain to have a GPU that is significantly more impressive than the in-built GMA (SGX535).

NOTE: This is a benchmark on multiple cores, and is not necessarily indicative of real-world performance or single-core performance in a regular app. Still, a mobile SoC competing with a notebook processor favourably in any regard is somewhat impressive.

At this point, distros like Ubuntu can not only run well on the hardware, but potentially run better than ATOM netbooks.

With mobile capability (as a result of performance) evolving at this rate, I suspect the 'Osborne effect' is in full-effect, especially among the informed -- us. But it's about to reach somewhat of a breaking point, and I believe that's with the next iteration of SoCs. Past this point, speed/memory will increase, but not so much that the new software will be isolated to the newer processors. A good analogy is running a modern Linux distro on an old Pentium. It will run, not comfortably, but it will run. However, devices bumping SoCs like Tegra2 will be somewhat constrained in the types of software they can run.

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	Kangal	2011-04-26 , 03:20
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Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt

The third Galaxy S II commercial has been released:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEU83IiGTT4

Again, the phone is woken by 'Hi Galaxy'. Interesting...

That was shot here in Aust, the Falcon is a dead-giveaway.
But that guy has an accent, and is definitely not native here.
(I'm not native either, but brought up here, noone can tell)

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	Kangal	2011-04-26 , 03:26
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Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt

This seems to be the *only* modern (mobile SoC) tablet that has an active digitizer. All of the other ones rely on touch input or 'capacitive' stylii.

I really applaud HTC for moving on this, though I would like to see more manufacturers follow suit. The Tab 8.9 with pen would be so killer...

Yeah ... so I *need* a high-end, small, 8.9" tablet
+ custom rom/unlocked bootloader
+ active-digitizer with dedicated stylus slot
+ customize my whip so tablet is the centre-console
+ ergonomic keyboard dock (otg)
+ fullsized USB with host

Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt

It seems that I'm not the only one that thinks a pen with a slate is a good idea... Check this out:

Lenovo is releasing a 10.1" Honeycomb slate with active pen: The ThinkPad:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/24/l...comb-ips-disp/
http://thisismynext.com/2011/04/24/l...us-hit-summer/

I think I spoke too soon again,

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	danramos	2011-04-26 , 04:05
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Originally Posted by Rebski

I know it was a few pages back but isn't this a big deal? I decided to hold my next tablet purchase until Honeycomb is finalised and supported.

So if I wait only a month or two longer I will also get Tegra3 (twice the power of Tegra2 ?)

Asus and others have already said they are delaying the launch of their tablets pending Honeycomb so I suspect they are in a bit of bind now with the real fear of an 'Osborne effect'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect

Ahhh nostalgia for the golden age of 8088 and V20->8086 and V30->80186->i286->i386->i486->Pentium->then BOOM! Plethora of Pentium II's and clones and so on.