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Poll: How much would you be willing to pay for a Neo900 (complete device) with TI DM3730 1GHz/512M-RAM/1GB
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#3081
hahahaahahha
oh god man!
that is priceless!

sigh...
yeah..
I remember those days....of code ..
and tape drives..
and magazines...

haha
I remember there was this one game I got running on the VIC...
it was a "farming" game...
it dealt with variables like cost of pesticide, herbicide, seed, etc.
it dealt with cost of machinery, weather variables,
even at the end of season..
once one has gotten their crop in..
it dealt with sale of one's crop..
and trying to stay ahead of the curve of debt..
to afford to keep the farm running into the next year....

It was naturally based upon speculation.
Speculating based on current value of crops...
that investing in seed, supplies, equipment and labor ...
and praying the weather would be good..
and hoping that once the crops were brought in..
that one's gamble on the going price of that crop would pay off.

I grew up a farmer..
I figured it was a cakewalk to win at such a game...
but surprisingly ..
I lost.
and I kept losing..
I kept going bankrupt and losing the farm...
I checked and rechecked and rerererechecked the code...
it was correct..
I played every conceivable outcome...
and always lost...

and then it finally hit me..
and I laughed and laughed...
the game was dead-on a perfect farming simulation.

ah those were good old days.
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242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
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#3082
Originally Posted by endsormeans View Post
get the latest pi with 2gb ram
get a battery
get a decent case
and get this... https://www.ebay.ca/itm/PiTalk-3G-IO...sid=m570.l1313
i dont think latest pi comes with 2gb ram, you may have to look for some other sbc like tinker board if you want that much of ram. Well i am thinking of buying something like this for myself and been exploring options.
And i clicked on the e*bay link, it installed a link in my toolbar, i am unable to delete it . Sure i can remove the shortcut but when i customize the toolbar the option to add it in the toolbar is still there.
I am using Slimjet browser in PCLOS. It is certainly not an extension. May be i should uninstall it , m*f* didn't ask my permission to add it in the first place.
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#3083
wow...
didn't like you did it Hardy....

ach you are right too!
what was I thinking of ?!
best a pi can do is a gb ram right now...
even so...it ain't bad...

pi zero w would be easier on battery consumption I would imagine though...
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1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
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PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325

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#3084
Originally Posted by endsormeans View Post
best a pi can do is a gb ram right now...
even so...it ain't bad...

pi zero w would be easier on battery consumption I would imagine though...
Pi Zero & Pi Zero W are 512MB, and using the original single core ARMv6, so quite far from the Pi3 performances. (see https://www.raspberrypi.org/products...rry-pi-zero-w/)

And the raspberry pi is not known for power consumption efficiency. Not sure on the last models but the first ones lacked some power management features in idle mode.
 

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#3085
What I find amazing is that it can run a proper desktop UI on 512 MB while a certain unnamed OS is struggling with a crippled mobile UI with twice as much.
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#3086
Originally Posted by Zeta View Post
Pi Zero & Pi Zero W are 512MB, and using the original single core ARMv6, so quite far from the Pi3 performances. (see https://www.raspberrypi.org/products...rry-pi-zero-w/)

And the raspberry pi is not known for power consumption efficiency. Not sure on the last models but the first ones lacked some power management features in idle mode.
Even so...
the size of the pi zero w would allow for housing 2 or 3 batteries to compensate ...and still the finished device be adequate in form and size ...and make the issue moot.
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1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
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PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325

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#3087
Originally Posted by pichlo View Post
What I find amazing is that it can run a proper desktop UI on 512 MB while a certain unnamed OS is struggling with a crippled mobile UI with twice as much.
Gotta pay for all that managed code crap.
I guess it's a sign of our times that using a metric f*ckton of RAM in a smartphone is considered fair price for letting programmers weasel out of cleaning up the memory they have allocated.
 

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#3088
yup...
every word I completely agree with...

which is easier?
throwing something together that is wasteful and shipping it out for immediate profitable use...

or ...
attempting to make something that is lean, light, efficient ..etc...
that takes time...

no brainer when everyone else id being wasteful...
people throw their hands up and join the crowd...

but when restriction is placed...creativity and innovation will always win..
with attempts to do incredible things within very tight parameters...
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3-nexus 5's : 1 w/ Floko Pie 9.1 (running beautifully) waiting for Stable Droid 10 rom, 1 w/ ̶Ubuntu Touch, 1 with Maru OS (intend maemo leste when ready)

1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.


PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325

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#3089
Originally Posted by ScumCoder View Post
I guess it's a sign of our times that using a metric f*ckton of RAM in a smartphone is considered fair price for letting programmers weasel out of cleaning up the memory they have allocated.
I studied computer science at the uni some 25-30 years ago and it was the sign of the times then already. Our course was split into two streams, hardware and software. I took the hardware path, but we had some classes together. I was really astonished when one of the software instructors boasted that the programmers can use up any resources the hardware designers can throw at them. I did not understand it then and I still do not understand it now, how on earth is that supposed to be something to be proud of? Should you not be boasting how frugally you use resources, not how wastefully?
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#3090
Originally Posted by endsormeans View Post
Even so...
the size of the pi zero w would allow for housing 2 or 3 batteries to compensate ...and still the finished device be adequate in form and size ...and make the issue moot.
I'm just saying, if you missed that point, do whatever pleases you.
If you do it, I would be interested by your results.
 

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