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Originally Posted by jalyst
He had earlier pointed out that he tried to get that info out of that thread before but was shot down because he's not a developer and how dare he pollute the N950 vs N9 thread with questions about the differences if he's not one of them.
That's a very old article, likely to have some out-of-date info.
That's an old post of gerbick's too (well... over 24hrs anyway)
Think this thread has already been mentioned: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
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The Qn that started it all eventually got answered (as best as it can now).
After things calmed down...
TBH I never completely got the utter indignation Gerbick was feeling.
"Water under the bridge" now anyway... hopefully!? *shrugs*
Shock horror, Engadget story on the N9!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/30/o...eptember-15th/
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After things calmed down...
TBH I never completely got the utter indignation Gerbick was feeling.
"Water under the bridge" now anyway... hopefully!? *shrugs*
Shock horror, Engadget story on the N9!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/30/o...eptember-15th/
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Originally Posted by jalyst
I told you guys Engadget wouldn't post about it again until there was a rumored release date. ETA on next Engadget N9 post is in about a month (approximately) when it becomes available in some random country like the Ukraine.
The Qn that started it all eventually got answered (as best as it can now).
After things calmed down...
TBH I never completely got the utter indignation Gerbick was feeling.
"Water under the bridge" now anyway... hopefully!? *shrugs*
Shock horror, Engadget story on the N9!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/30/o...eptember-15th/
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Originally Posted by jalyst
I can remember when I was beta testing some very popular professional software and was an active part of that community. It's clearly stated what you can and cannot talk about.
The Qn that started it all eventually got answered (as best as it can now).
After things calmed down...
Simple questions about a certain advertised feature should never be met with "I'll never tell you" type of responses. I personally have a serious issue with that. If you're part of the privileged part of the community, you don't owe them anything, but you shouldn't exactly hold your position over others.
TBH I never completely got the utter indignation Gerbick was feeling.
"Water under the bridge" now anyway... hopefully!? *shrugs*
Shock horror, Engadget story on the N9!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/30/o...eptember-15th/
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing
I think they left, because there are no rational reasons for them to stick here. No action is happening here. This is not the place you apply for N950
So N900CE is alive if more contribute and test it will continue. However it will die if people with negative attitude continues too flood this and Meego.com forum with FUD and dissinformation.
Cause no devs want to contribute if TMO is negative all the time thats ALSO a reason many has leaved this crap forum
Originally Posted by mikecomputing
Nokia has chosen closed-source components for 6 times in a row?
Btw. Dont blame nokia for some drivers is Closed some is thirdparty mnanufactors (like TI) decisions. Same goes for Linux on desktop where Microsoft is feeding the graphics companys and make it IMPOSSIBLE for thbem to opensource the drivers
It is very difficult to believe that nokia is making 6 devices with closed sourced drivers accidentally. The closed-source drivers were the issue even with 770 which was the first device.
You know how they say: once is accident, twice is coincidence, ...
Originally Posted by mikecomputing
If you are referring to the exploding batteries, let me remind you that the same technology is used in many laptops, and you still don't get closed source driver for battery charging.
Also there is a reason some is closed even from Nokia (battery driver is one).
I don't like being negative, but after 770, I've bought N810 with firm intention to be a common user.
At the moment I am in a waiting state when it comes to acquiring a new device. There are some android devices, there is the n9, there are even some linux based devices.
So no FUD here and no trolling on my behalf.
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Originally Posted by danramos
History has shown:
WILL go down? Or IS going down? I don't think Nokia will shut its doors--but I suspect it will fall fast, then slow its fall as it nears shutting down entirely and it'll probably just linger there for a long time. Pure speculation, mind you.
I agree with the parallels to Apple history. It does look like Nokia is repeating a LOT of Apple's history--even the looming figure of Microsoft there to "help out." Apple was smart enough to divorce themselves from Microsoft's "help" before damage can be done and they didn't let Microsoft change anything. It doesn't seem as if that's going to be the case with Nokia, since they've switched to MS's OS and there's a whole LOT more sharing between these two companies--almost as if Nokia was bought and owned, unlike Apple's situation.
IBM DOS -> Microsoft DOS
IBM in cooperate with Microsoft doing nextgen Graphical UserInterface after Win3.1 named OS Warp. But then "hey lets rape IBM copy the code and implement in Windows 95"
Same could happen with Nokia: Rape them, steal best lowlevel engineers work for WPx and also engineers from QtQuick and webkit engineer implement it in WP7....
But this time Microsoft will FAIL cause the engineers may very well go work for Intel with Meego or Google instead...
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing
Single, young developers may afford to GoGoogle. Fortunately the majority has families. That will made them do whatever nokia/microsoft want, because people have to keep their jobs.
But this time Microsoft will FAIL cause the engineers may very well go work for Intel with Meego or Google instead...
Do you remember the N9 announcement and the following "leaked" video announcing WF7?
The guy who presented the WF7 did not sound happy at all presenting SeaRay, which happened after N9 demonstration. Actually it was very clear that he did not feel comfortable saying nice things about WF7, he does not believe. It look he was forced to stand there by the firing squad.
Watch that part of the video and you will get my point.
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Originally Posted by momcilo
you have a point about family etc... but I still beleive they will fail its year >2000 people knows better. even poor countrys will start fight corrupt companys and I see Microsoft as one of those. I dont like google has alot of marketing now but one thing they do right is to trust theyr engineers. If nokia thinks they can force engineer work with WP they will fail in the long run.
Single, young developers may afford to GoGoogle. Fortunately the majority has families. That will made them do whatever nokia/microsoft want, because people have to keep their jobs.
Do you remember the N9 announcement and the following "leaked" video announcing WF7?
The guy who presented the WF7 did not sound happy at all presenting SeaRay, which happened after N9 demonstration. Actually it was very clear that he did not feel comfortable saying nice things about WF7, he does not believe. It look he was forced to stand there by the firing squad.
Watch that part of the video and you will get my point.
Now I actually will help feed the trols buy saying there already is alo of meego engineers who has left nokia....
But still I want to fight making this damn N9 too sucess and make sure MRFlop and Ballmer get very pissed cause of it
Meego is needed!
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Originally Posted by tissot
Moreover, there is a pattern:
Honestly i find this imo useless discussion every 7-8 page to just go circles.
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I agree with the parallels to Apple history. It does look like Nokia is repeating a LOT of Apple's history--even the looming figure of Microsoft there to "help out." Apple was smart enough to divorce themselves from Microsoft's "help" before damage can be done and they didn't let Microsoft change anything. It doesn't seem as if that's going to be the case with Nokia, since they've switched to MS's OS and there's a whole LOT more sharing between these two companies--almost as if Nokia was bought and owned, unlike Apple's situation.
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