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2009-12-29
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Originally Posted by OrangeBox
***Cries***
1. Screen. It has a good resolution and color. Sensitivity is good. How much extra would've cost to apply the oleophobic layer on it like the 3GS'es? $2 bucks, five tops.
2. Camera. It is better than the 3GS but worse than many other Nokia's. 5MP is pretty average. Lots of phone cams are now 8MP. New Sony-Ericcson has 12MP. Where is the optical zoom? Regular P&S cameras half the width of the N900 have 3X optical zoom.
3. Keyboard. Good typing on it. Worse than BlackBerry. Controversial (learnable though) location of space bar. 3 rows of keys. Could've easily been 4 like the Droid's or most other smart phone's.
4. Speakers. Good but worse then N95's.
5. CPU. Same as 3GS. Could've been 1GHz SnapDragon.
Now, when we've accepted that the Iphone hardware is crapified, let's discuss why Snapdragon should have been chosen instead? Perhaps becuase the best multi-tasking phones (N95, Omnia HD and least but not last N900) happens to have an OMAP SoC? Or perhaps becuase the Snapdragon (in theory as well, see previous posts) is junk?
6. Storage. Same as 3GS with expandable. Noone will use that feature because one must remove the batter to replace the microSDHC card. Why isn't there an external slot?
7. Browser. Better than Safari. No portrait support (yet). Again a half baked solution.
8. Phone hw: better than 3GS. No North American frequency support for 3GS except T-mobile. I thought that frequency tuners are eletronic, so whatever chip Nokia uses should be programmable to so frequencies yet it's not.
9. Overall build quality: on par with 3GS
10. OS: better than 3GS
11. Available software: 3GS wins
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2009-12-29
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The problem is that Nokia is playing the catching up yet again to Apple. The 3GS came out months before the N900 and hardware-wise the N900 definitely is only marginally better and in some cases worse then the 3GS. Available software wise it's definitely worse.
This is in competing with a company that didn't even know what a phone was 2 years ago. Nokia may have the talent pool to do great things, but nothing it ever did was revolutionary. Everything was always a small incremental improvement over the previous version.
When the iPhone 4G or whatever will came out next year rest assured it will blow people away. To be fair, Nokia may end up doing the same with N920 should it chooses to remain a player in the game.
Don't forget the Android movement either. Close to 1 million of the Motorola Droids have been sold so far. What are Nokia's numbers with the N900?
This is in competing with a company that didn't even know what a phone was 2 years ago. Nokia may have the talent pool to do great things, but nothing it ever did was revolutionary. Everything was always a small incremental improvement over the previous version.
When the iPhone 4G or whatever will came out next year rest assured it will blow people away. To be fair, Nokia may end up doing the same with N920 should it chooses to remain a player in the game.
Don't forget the Android movement either. Close to 1 million of the Motorola Droids have been sold so far. What are Nokia's numbers with the N900?
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2009-12-29
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To be fair, if AT&T doesn't get their crap together, the iPhone may suffer. Unless Apple has a contract in which they are able to bail on AT&T, they are going to experience a drop in sales at least in the U.S. (I'm not sure if the iPhone is sold overseas, but I assume it is.)
AT&T is so bad that just recently (yesterday apparantly) they have stopped selling the iPhone in New York City, stating that "New York is not ready for the iPhone."
The truth though, as we all know, is that AT&T's network isn't ready for the bandwidth usage of it. AT&T was also recently rated the WORST cellphone carrier by Consumer Reports. No surprise, the number of dropped calls I got on AT&T was horrendous.
AT&T is so bad that just recently (yesterday apparantly) they have stopped selling the iPhone in New York City, stating that "New York is not ready for the iPhone."
The truth though, as we all know, is that AT&T's network isn't ready for the bandwidth usage of it. AT&T was also recently rated the WORST cellphone carrier by Consumer Reports. No surprise, the number of dropped calls I got on AT&T was horrendous.
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If you don't know how to check your N900's uptime, you probably shouldn't own it.
If you don't know how to check your N900's uptime, you probably shouldn't own it.
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2009-12-29
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Originally Posted by c0rt3x
This is simply untrue. A quick glance over threads on this forum reveals numerous hardware/build quality issues with the N900.
The most N900 faults have been software issues, which (mostly all) can be solved with firmware updates. However, the first batch of the 3GS had a dump chipset position (in order to minimize the design as much as possible without skipping some necessary parts), which often caused overheating. It might be history by now, but how as a consumer are you supposed to know that, when Apple never even admitted the issue in the first place (now that it's fixed they could at least admit it, but no... we prefer silence).
The overall build quality of the 3GS is better than the N900. It feels more firm and not that plasticky as the N900.
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2009-12-29
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Originally Posted by Laughingstok
Yes the iPhone is sold overseas. AT&T was practically given a lifeline when Apple gave it the exclusivity contract. The only reason why they singled out the iPhone two days ago was because the N900 they sell in the US doesn't work with 3G speeds on the AT&T network. In the meantime would be BB users were laughing. Shame on AT&T for blaming the iPhone for their shitty network.
To be fair, if AT&T doesn't get their crap together, the iPhone may suffer. Unless Apple has a contract in which they are able to bail on AT&T, they are going to experience a drop in sales at least in the U.S. (I'm not sure if the iPhone is sold overseas, but I assume it is.)
AT&T is so bad that just recently (yesterday apparantly) they have stopped selling the iPhone in New York City, stating that "New York is not ready for the iPhone."
The truth though, as we all know, is that AT&T's network isn't ready for the bandwidth usage of it. AT&T was also recently rated the WORST cellphone carrier by Consumer Reports. No surprise, the number of dropped calls I got on AT&T was horrendous.
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2009-12-29
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#317
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Originally Posted by OrangeBox
I manage it several time a day, no sign of issues yet. At least the ability to extend beyond 32GB is there. You lost this point.
Correction: remove the battery is incorrect. Just pried open my N900. All you have to do is to take the back cover off by risking to break the little plastic flaps around the edges. Definitely not a daily task.
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2009-12-29
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Oh, and I just opened the back cover of my N900 without any issue. I don't get how it's difficult. There's even a little "lip" to grab onto (the side opposite the camera lens) which you simply pull on and it opens.
I've opened mine dozens of times without issue or worry. *shrug*
I've opened mine dozens of times without issue or worry. *shrug*
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If you don't know how to check your N900's uptime, you probably shouldn't own it.
If you don't know how to check your N900's uptime, you probably shouldn't own it.
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2009-12-29
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Originally Posted by OrangeBox
The same build quality that resulted in some units burning while others had off color screens? Every device out there regardless of who makes it will have some manufacturing issues.
This is simply untrue. A quick glance over threads on this forum reveals numerous hardware/build quality issues with the N900.
The overall build quality of the 3GS is better than the N900. It feels more firm and not that plasticky as the N900.
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Originally Posted by ysss
They're maemo and MeeGo...
"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
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2009-12-29
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Originally Posted by OrangeBox
Well there is thengoing dispute between Nokia & Apple so one might argue that they still don't know what a phone is! The only thing Apple did that was revolutionary with the iPhone was the UI. Even some of the gesture control interface was nicked from Creative!
The problem is that Nokia is playing the catching up yet again to Apple. The 3GS came out months before the N900 and hardware-wise the N900 definitely is only marginally better and in some cases worse then the 3GS. Available software wise it's definitely worse.
This is in competing with a company that didn't even know what a phone was 2 years ago. Nokia may have the talent pool to do great things, but nothing it ever did was revolutionary. Everything was always a small incremental improvement over the previous version.
When the iPhone 4G or whatever will came out next year rest assured it will blow people away. To be fair, Nokia may end up doing the same with N920 should it chooses to remain a player in the game.
Don't forget the Android movement either. Close to 1 million of the Motorola Droids have been sold so far. What are Nokia's numbers with the N900?
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