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2010-02-18
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Originally Posted by doksng
Apologies on the mis-understanding. I also meant finger-friendly.
I agree with your suggestions, but i believe the application should also be finger friendly for those who would prefer not to use the stylus but their fingers.
The UI that you've shown was based on a stylus-use paradigm, not (necessarily) one of a finger-based one (I know its Logos' and the work they've done there, my mention is on the foundations of that approach they are using).
To say it clearer, anything that we can design that would mean as few clicks/taps possible for a user should be done. Using many screens, or exposing too much chrome - whether landscape or portrait - should be avoided where possible.
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2010-02-18
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One thing I can think of is in supporting multilingual.
I used to use the Go Bible for J2ME (gobible.jolon.org/) on all java phones and even N95 and etc.
When I use the Chinese version, it does show the abbreviated book names in its corresponding Chinese.
However, in Rapier, it always show the abbreviated book names in English no matter which module of different language is used.
Not sure if it's the limitaiton of the application or the data format.
It might not be convience to people who don't use Enlgish bible but only familiar with the book name in their language.
I used to use the Go Bible for J2ME (gobible.jolon.org/) on all java phones and even N95 and etc.
When I use the Chinese version, it does show the abbreviated book names in its corresponding Chinese.
However, in Rapier, it always show the abbreviated book names in English no matter which module of different language is used.
Not sure if it's the limitaiton of the application or the data format.
It might not be convience to people who don't use Enlgish bible but only familiar with the book name in their language.
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2010-02-19
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I haven't tried Rapier yet but should be able to test it by next week.
Below are screen-shots from the Go-Bible that use a simple navigation scheme without multiple screens. This is the full screen mode
Below are screen-shots from the Go-Bible that use a simple navigation scheme without multiple screens. This is the full screen mode
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2010-02-19
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I finally cracked open the book on Qt and put together a little demo app, so hopefully i'll be in a position to work on katana soon.
I've been using my N900 for all my reference needs in church for a few weeks now and it has given me some ideas on features that would be really useful.
Something i'd really like to see is support for several quick bookmarks. These could be implemented following the "ribbon marker" paradigm such as exists in some editions of scriptures now. It could show a few blocks of colored pixels at the top that could be "flipped down" to quickly bookmark a passage. Then the ribbon would also show up at the bottom. It could be "flipped up" to return to the passage. This would be very useful during e.g. Sunday school lessons with multiple passages being used in parallel.
I have been looking through the Sword mailing list trying to figure out what kind of support the engine has for annotations and highlighting of passages--without much success. Apparently one app that uses Sword implements a user commentary as a genbook, with each new comment being appended and using an index to reference it, but that doesn't seem to be very robust or sophisticated. Does anyone know more about this? I'd really like to be able to annotate and mark verses, and export that to other Sword apps.
Edit: i had originally thought such a thing could be implemented as a commentary module much like the pre-built commentaries, but i suspect on-the-fly commentary module manipulation that way doesn't work. Then again, i haven't found much documentation and as such am rather unsure how the engine works in many regards.
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I've been using my N900 for all my reference needs in church for a few weeks now and it has given me some ideas on features that would be really useful.
Something i'd really like to see is support for several quick bookmarks. These could be implemented following the "ribbon marker" paradigm such as exists in some editions of scriptures now. It could show a few blocks of colored pixels at the top that could be "flipped down" to quickly bookmark a passage. Then the ribbon would also show up at the bottom. It could be "flipped up" to return to the passage. This would be very useful during e.g. Sunday school lessons with multiple passages being used in parallel.
I have been looking through the Sword mailing list trying to figure out what kind of support the engine has for annotations and highlighting of passages--without much success. Apparently one app that uses Sword implements a user commentary as a genbook, with each new comment being appended and using an index to reference it, but that doesn't seem to be very robust or sophisticated. Does anyone know more about this? I'd really like to be able to annotate and mark verses, and export that to other Sword apps.
Edit: i had originally thought such a thing could be implemented as a commentary module much like the pre-built commentaries, but i suspect on-the-fly commentary module manipulation that way doesn't work. Then again, i haven't found much documentation and as such am rather unsure how the engine works in many regards.
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2010-02-20
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There are a few formats for notes that I know of, but can't remember off the top of my head what it is. Will come back when done travelling this weekend to link that here.
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2010-02-20
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Originally Posted by Mateus
I'm in a relationship with Jesus Christ.
is really so many believers here? :?
Are you?
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2010-02-22
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Installed Rapier and everything worked as below. But I noticed that the Bible Module would change to ASV after I close the application and restart it. It does not recognize the last Bible module selected
Originally Posted by ARJWright
Rapier Testing 1.1.10
Test 1: Can find application within Application Manager
Result: Yes/Successful
Stepts to Reproduce:
- Make sure to add the Extras-Testing Repository and that it is enabled
- Search for Rapier (easier since there are so many apps to scroll through)
Test 2: Can install from Application Manager
Result: Yes/Successful
Steps to Reproduce:
- Once the app was found, simply to click and wait for the confirmation screen
Test 3 (#1): Can install (load) Bible from within Rapier
Result: Yes/Successful
Steps to Reproduce:
- clicked on Rapier in the title bar
- navigated to Manage
- clicked on the tab titled Remote
- scrolled to en (English)
- scrolled to ESV
- clicked ok
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- clicked on Rapier in the title bar
- navigated to Manage
- clicked on the tab titled Remote
- scrolled to en (English)
- selected Net-text, Strongs Greek and Hebrew, and TSK
- clicked ok
- back to preferences to change direcrory to home/user/N900/Documents then got a message:
"Problem changing data_path from /home/user/sword to /home/user/MyDocs/.documents: Operation not permitted"
Test 4: Can view text from loaded Bible
Result: Yes/Successful
Steps to Reproduce:
- once bible was loaded, text displayed fine
- changed to model and navigated to new chapter verse and was successful (UI issues here if using finger-input)
Test 5: Can utilize all application functions
Result(s): Yes/Successful
Steps to Reproduce
- before I could search, had to build the index for each of the installed modules, but afterwards this worked fine
- navigating chapters was not hard, just not opimized for the UI
- the search has a broken icon (maybe to just make a new one for that feature)
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2010-02-22
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There is an option to set a default module: Click on the menu selection at the top of the screen - "preferences" then select "Default Module".
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2010-02-22
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Someone mentioned a couple of posts ago something that prodded in me a very strong desire - I really want to be able to highlight and annotate and create commented links in my bible!!! There are _no_ sword apps that do it yet.
A while back I started trying to build up a ruby lib for sword since I love Ruby... but it seems Python is the weapon of choice so I'll have to get into Python soon and see what I can add.
Are they any packages of the Qt app kicking around ready for some testing?
A while back I started trying to build up a ruby lib for sword since I love Ruby... but it seems Python is the weapon of choice so I'll have to get into Python soon and see what I can add.
Are they any packages of the Qt app kicking around ready for some testing?
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Attached are screen-shot of the same application in landscape mode. I also like the idea of you typing the chapter and verse but that option should be available when the keypad is open.
When closed the the navigation method shown in the pictures would be preferable
Couldn't figure how to separate the images and the are bunched up together after posting
Last edited by doksng; 2010-02-18 at 17:51.