Android is the linux kernel plus a java VM on top of it where all the apps run. Having the java VM to run QT apps is utterly stupid IMO withought the java vm there aren't much stuff in android you can't find in meego or maemo.

Lowered license fees? I am pretty sure the license fees for Nokia are negative - that means Microsoft is overall paying for that to widen the userbase.
Yet nobody's buying it and I hope it stays that way.

When Elop mentioned 'specific support from Microsoft', he didn't mean lowering the license fees, he meant subsidizing it in form of either marketing, or other cost cuts. I don't think that Nokia has paid a single dollar for using the system (if you don't count the billions lost in value :-) ) to M$.

I'm really curious about the next qt developer blog entry

The original BOM target for Meltemi phone is more than $50, then at some point (forget when...) The team were ordered to work within $50 budget. I get the feeling this caused delays maybe due to HW changes. Delay is a big problem because original target is demo in Q2. But in early June, stable release shifted to Q4 and product launch became Q1 2013.

There was one important milestone coming soon. I feel what happened was top management had a serious discussion about the project's progress. They realized they could not meet the milestone, and was off by a larger than acceptable time by CEO/CFO so they made the call. Anyway, we won't know the true story unless senior management speak out... there must be other aspects of the story.

To me, the situation is more like Meltemi loses it, rather than S40 touch wins it. S40 touch is nice considering the price, but that also means NOK makes little profit out of it. In any case, NOK misjudged the market, mixed-and-matched a wrong strategy. Without the halo effect from N9x, the nice S40 touch interface cannot lift the image of S40 (think about the difference between an Audi A3 and a Golf), and Meltemi has to start from scratch....

By the way I am also curious about the WebKit people in NOK. Are they affected as well? There is no place in WP strategy for WebKit after all.

Well, it'd be good to have a bit more ironclad evidence that this purported source can be trusted.
Assuming that's where The_Register got their info. from that Juha was referring to...
Taking a anonymous users word that they are what they say they are, & have witnessed what they say they have, is dubious at best.
I realise the need for anonymity on the internetz, but there needs to be some sort of validation that they can be trusted.
I mean looking at the guys posts/threads, it doesn't look like he's had much -if anything- to do with Meltemi/Maemo6x coding.

Smells mostly FUD-ish to me, doesn't gel with others things we've known, or have been rumoured regularly.

Nope it doesn't rely on Qt at all.....

The Nokia browser for series 40 also uses webkit if I'm not mistaken.

You know this how?

I don't recall ever hearing of a Q2 demo, it's always been late Q3 or Q4 for as long as I've been following the rumours.

You know this how?
Where are you getting all this info, and how are you so confident that it's "concrete"?

Kinda agreed there if my comprehension of what you're saying is correct.

But after scrapping Meltemi, do they have any other choice but to develop S40 to that direction?

They'll stick with J2ME, why waste time trying to shoehorn Qt into the existing s40? Featurephones are going the way of the dodo quite soon, anyway.

Qt is now effectively banished from Nokia, alongside anything that has no ties with Microsoft. In fact, I argued that Microsoft would rather kill its own WP (and Nokia along with it) than to allow Qt to become an important player in the mobile market. Last time they made a mistake by not fighting Symbian, which was essentially invented to keep Microsoft out of the mobile game, and allowed Symbian to become a dominant mobile player - the cost of that mistake was Microsoft sidelined from the lucrative mobile industry for a full decade, and it allowed Apple and Google to ultimately take the majority of mobile space making it increasingly difficult for Microsoft to penetrate it. Given that the dubbed post-PC era has just begun, being a minor player in it means your days are numbered and Microsoft is aware of that.

So, as I said just after the announcement on Feb'11 - if you think that Qt will survive this deal (as in, survive within Nokia / in mobile space) you are very naive. Microsoft needs a way to sway people and developers to their 'garden' and lock them tightly in, and they'll pay and do whatever it takes to reach that goal. They've invented .NET for that reason alone, they are giving developer tools for free, they'll further push the WinRT, the DirectX was made with that in mind, the whole concept of WP and Windows RT, and Metro requirements, and the walled garden they enforce which was not a common theme for Microsoft but rather Apple, is created with that goal in mind... everything that can lock people to their proverbial garden. Qt with its natural cross-platform fluency would allow devs to easily migrate their software (including the high-performance ones or the software mentioned for limited / battery constrained hardware, which is where Java begins to break) therefore defeating the lock-in Microsoft wants to enforce.

How many times have you heard people saying that they'd gladly leave Windows world but the apps X, Y and Z, which are very important to them, are not available on platforms A, B or C? Imagine if the majority of that software was written in Qt (provided that it was as mature back then as it is now) and actually available on the platforms A, B or C? Microsoft would hold no leverage over those people and the first blunder they make (read: Windows Me, Windows Vista...) those users will be gone. And since we are replacing our mobile devices more rapidly than our PCs, and there is an actual competition in the mobile space, the danger of losing a huge amount of customers over night is so much greater. Why would anyone sane expect Microsoft to allow their strategic partner (read: future corpse) to continue building, pushing and proliferating the mobile space with the tools and means which directly work against Microsoft and its goals? They weren't afraid of Symbian or Maemo/MeeGo/Meltemi - the first one already did them all the damage it was designed to do, and the latter is not something they couldn't fight as it wouldn't get a dominant position (Android already did the damage there) - they were afraid of Qt (or anything truly cross-platform) becoming a programming lingua franca in the mobile once Nokia pushes it to all devices - then Microsoft will have no chance to penetrate the mobile market as it will be completely taken and divided by Apple, Google and Nokia, and ultimately when Nokia brings the billion or what devices to support Qt it would be a game over for Microsoft - everybody (except Apple, of course) would have to support Qt, and then Microsoft would have no chances of locking devs and users to their platforms. And Microsoft knows only how to play that game, open competition was never their flair.

So, Microsoft did what everybody would do in their place - they made sure they kill all the efforts towards that goal while still in infancy. Microsoft learns from their past mistakes, and they played this move flawlessly. Nokia on the other hand...

tl;dr: Qt is gone from Nokia, it was banished year and a half ago, this is just a formal acknowledge of the sad fact. Accept it and move on.