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2014-10-22
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looking good 
maybe I have missed that info, you are planning to make two versions, which one is slided to the left and second to the right ? or it is slidable both sides ? (just looking at the pictures, that the position of camera is changing)
maybe I have missed that info, you are planning to make two versions, which one is slided to the left and second to the right ? or it is slidable both sides ? (just looking at the pictures, that the position of camera is changing)
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2014-10-23
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Originally Posted by Thoke
Define quality...
One question: some time ago you said something along the lines of that these keyboards will all be tested and verified to be reliable before sending them, does that mean the quality is assured? If yes, you might have made me a pre-orderer/early buyer
For me quality is not only working (now and ten times after), but with a set of defined specs. When the price will be somewhere between €100~€150, I'd expect flawless functionality. Because I haven't heard any concrete definitions about quality (maybe subjective ones) I'd really like to judge myself. Especially when I hear this:
The keyboard works fine with native Jolla Apps, but not with Android apps either from Yandex or Amazon app stores...
I can say that there is no planned changes to this in update 8.
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2014-10-23
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@ Netherlands
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"I can say that there is no planned changes to this in update 8."
We're currently at Update 9 opt-in so who knows what has changed. And besides: when TOHKBD hits 'the market' we're at least at Update 10 (if Update 10 doesn't get delayed, that is) so who knows what that'll bring.
Price is not gonna be 150 euros but agreed on the quality part. But I have no doubts Dirk'll make sure it's good quality
We're currently at Update 9 opt-in so who knows what has changed. And besides: when TOHKBD hits 'the market' we're at least at Update 10 (if Update 10 doesn't get delayed, that is) so who knows what that'll bring.
Price is not gonna be 150 euros but agreed on the quality part. But I have no doubts Dirk'll make sure it's good quality
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2014-10-24
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Originally Posted by Thoke
The quality control stickers
One question: some time ago you said something along the lines of that these keyboards will all be tested and verified to be reliable before sending them, does that mean the quality is assured? If yes, you might have made me a pre-orderer/early buyer
Last edited by HtheB; 2014-10-24 at 00:10.
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2014-10-24
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@ Finland
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Originally Posted by robnas
Yeah, actually I didn't have quality in mind when I wrote that post. I should've wrote reliability instead of quality. Quality is really tied to individual's expectations, so that's one thing hard to promise (though it's used in business in marketing purposes, most often it means nothing in that context, just a fluff word).
Define quality...
For me quality is not only working (now and ten times after), but with a set of defined specs. When the price will be somewhere between €100~€150, I'd expect flawless functionality. Because I haven't heard any concrete definitions about quality (maybe subjective ones) I'd really like to judge myself. Especially when I hear this:
In my opinion, this is part of quality, I mean basic functionality
I do agree with your post though.
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2014-10-24
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Originally Posted by Thoke
all noted and agreed. see pages 8 - 11 or so for exactly the same discussion with me agreeing in the end also
Yeah, actually I didn't have quality in mind when I wrote that post. I should've wrote reliability instead of quality. Quality is really tied to individual's expectations, so that's one thing hard to promise (though it's used in business in marketing purposes, most often it means nothing in that context, just a fluff word).
I do agree with your post though.
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2014-10-24
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Originally Posted by Thoke
I particularly like how it is used in ISO 9000. In that context, it means nothing but traceability. You can consistently produce total cr@p - as long as you keep a paper trail everywhere, you can get an ISO 900 certifiction. I have learned to treat the "ISO 900 certified" label as "stay away".
(though [the word "quality" is] used in business in marketing purposes, most often it means nothing in that context, just a fluff word)
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2014-10-24
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Originally Posted by pichlo
Exactly. I took part in implementing ISO9001 to a subcontracting company a bit over 20 years ago. We actually got DNV-certified in the process.
I particularly like how it is used in ISO 9000. In that context, it means nothing but traceability. You can consistently produce total cr@p - as long as you keep a paper trail everywhere, you can get an ISO 900 certifiction.
Important thing in certification is the repeatibility and traceability of process.
It is not enough to produce total cr@p with nice paper trail, you also need to consistently produce the same cr@p all the time.
Originally Posted by pichlo
Well, consistent cr@p has a place in the order of things...
I have learned to treat the "ISO 900 certified" label as "stay away".
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2014-10-25
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#330
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moar sooooon
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