Thanks for the headsup Megacrazy...

I currently own an n810, and when I bought it, it wasn't very polished, lacked useful apps, syncing,... But I thought this would get fixed over time. NOT.

So seeing that the n900 goes the same path, I'll hold off handing Nokia more of my money.

For the Nokia trolls in here that were bashing Megacrazy, some facts:
- this isn't a new OS, maemo is quite old and Nokia still hasn't gotten its act together
- Given the pricerange this is sold in, it ought to be good. Period.
- If you think this is more of a tablet, then why did Nokia bother to add the phone capability. n810 with better cpu/memory and good apps would have been better.

Look, if the RSS app is having these problems, it's not the device. Someone just didn't do proper asynchronous GTK multi-threading. There is a relatively simple fix. On an n8x0 using PyGTK I can run silky smooth while downloading content and updating widgets. These devices kick a*s with this sort of stuff. They just need to get a senior programmer assigned. And if this is a system wide issue with network apps, the same solution can be applied everywhere. I have C and Python code to make these types of problems go away. I'm confident this can be fixed in a timely fashion.

Well in that case get to work . I hope you don't expect any money because Nokia has our money already. Maybe you should give them a call and ask them for a cut if you fix this.

Btw next video up will be scrolling through the history in the browser...featuring image tearing, failure to load all pages and an eventual crash. Just kidding. I think my video career is done for now.

1) Maemo has changed nearly in every jump. From the 770, to the n800/n810 to now the n900. It's not like Apple where the changes are gradual to the point where you can still run the operating systems on the older systems. It took a bit of hacking to get OS2008 running on the 770 and we'll see if Maemo 5 ever gets hacked enough to run on the n800/n810.

2) I agree. But it is good, maybe not to everyone's overhyped expectations.

3) Because they added the ability to use data so your not limited to tethering and wireless networks. You might as well throw in some voice functionality in there too since it's nearly the same chip. I pretty much consider the n900 a better n810 with better cpu/memory and a smaller screen (I would've preferred a 4 inch screen). More apps isn't something Nokia can do by themselves. They have to attract commercial developers and rely on the open source community. Most of the apps from the previous tablets came from ports or created by developers (many who are on this forum).

Sorry, I just watched the video. I think I might be doing too much guessing here (like that ever stopped me), but Nokia's probably using the gecko engine system wide. There might be some of what I mentioned above going on, but that video suggests that the gecko engine needs some fine tuning. Mozilla does great work, but I'm not sure they have the right speed formula yet for these devices.

And what about Harmattan? I can't see a gecko-based flagship browser surviving when QtWebkit is a core library. This must have been Nokia's plan all along with the engine abstraction layer. Obviously a great move, and maybe this should be a high priority for the community. Time to resurrect that stuff.

RSS Reader is lousy, i agree. But that doesn't mean N900 sucks. In any other aspect you're proven wrong. So, you're too much arrogant to admit that to yourself or you're just Gigacrazy.

I think that the guy might want to consider that the N900 has 800x480 screen which - compared to iPhone's 320x480 - is TWO AND A HALF TIMES MORE pixels to process at ANY time. The same hardware (CPU/GPU) gets 2.5 times higher load than on the iPhone. And for such a considerably increased load, I'd say that the result is more than satisfactory, and surely a subject to some further optimizations. This device has been on the market for just DAYS, for God's sake!

Secondly, maybe he should remind himself that the iPhone does NOT support Flash in the browser. It just SKIPS Flash content, which is often quite heavy. And the N900 browser has to deal with it. This also has some influence on less smooth scrolling.

So there are at least two factors that objectively affect performance. When rendering a web page, the N900 simply has A LOT MORE to do than the iPhone.

If that hardly (if at all - for "normal" users) noticeable scrolling jerkiness is the price to pay for 2.5 times higher resolution display and full Flash support in the browser then I am happy to pay the price as the "issues" that annoy him so much actually do not exist for me.

Regarding his complaints about the product not delivering quality and functionality he'd expect, maybe he could answer the following simple questions:

- does Bluetooth (the most crippled in the industry) on the iPhone deliver functionality one might expect from something that's advertised as the 'most powerful mobile platform'?

- does iPhone's 3 Megapixel camera without Flash deliver any usable functionality and quality AT NIGHT? Or is the iPhone supposed to be used in daylight only?

- has he already forgotten that it took Apple *TWO YEARS* and two device generations to implement on the iPhone as basic things as MMS, voice dialing, video recording, copy & paste, allow any GPS navigation to be released for it, etc. If he was patient enough to wait two years for Apple to do it, maybe he should give Nokia at least a couple of months and see what the upcoming firmware updates will bring?

It always puzzles me how iPhone users excuse it for having to wait two years for MMS or video recording, don't mind not having Flash support in the browser or even the simplest LED flashlight for the camera after 2.5 years and three generations of the device, and so on, while they're always the first to complain and throw mud at other devices for as silly and unimportant things as some miliseconds long scrolling unsmoothness I am not even able to see.

Maybe iPhone users should remind themselves how the first iPhone worked, what was it delivering and how long it took to add the most simple things to it. I'm sure we'll see most of the current issues fixed and missing features added in months, and not years like in case of the iPhone whose owners still wait for fully functional Bluetooth or Adobe Flash support, and got things like video recording or copy & paste only in mid-2009, five years after the rest of the world.

Shortly speaking: if you're able to wait YEARS for Apple to fix and add things to the iPhone, kindly consider waiting at least a couple of months for Nokia to fix and add things on Maemo, which only DEBUTED on the smartphone market.

Just my $0.001.

Best regards,
Michal Jerz
My-Symbian.com
My-Maemo.com (in a week or so)

@My-Symbian.com

Actually the GPU in the iPhone 3GS is better than the n900's.

I'm sorry you're not enjoying your experience as much as you hoped, but you have a premier device in your hand. You probably don't want to hear this but I'm gonna spew anyway.

These Maemo devices wouldn't exist if Nokia went it alone. And partnering with the upper tier of FOSS has been the Maemo creed from the beginning. It's a great thing, but it's a rocky path to the blissful green pastures. Everything's relative, so for a geek like me I'm already on the doorstep of the promise land. The pluses are so big that I'll even put up with a worthless hardware keyboard hangin' off of my device.

I know you're expecting something closer to perfection, but you're in the middle of a process, and Nokia has been embarrassingly upfront about it. But here is a high level question that makes my decisions easy: Where is everyone going? Take your pick: Google, Apple, Sony... They're control freaks. All of them. And they partner with control freaks. If their products are excellent and people want them, who am I to say anything. But where can they go? Only towards more control. I say let them fight it out; they're still going to have to adhere to standards and such, so let them try and cram their visions down my throat. And even though I like and use some of their products, I have my own dreams and visions; we all do, and Nokia has given us a great playground such that I have done things in the last two years that were just fantasy for me before the n800. But these devices have been proven to be much more than just playthings.

Anyway, again, it's a bummer about your new toy, Nokia seems to have a gun to their head and I'm not here to make excuses for them. And trust me, I'm not in good favor with their presence here, but Maemo and all that that implies is still the best thing going as far I'm concerned. So as I see it, you have three choices:

- Hang in there, learn about all the Maemo offerings, and watch things evolve and improve. Maybe even participate.
- Return the device; get something else or not. All the while monitoring this board for the progress you're looking for.
- or, return the device and find the gadget and community that suits you better.

Regardless, don't think this community takes things standing down; I think you already know that from this thread, but I'm talking about from Nokia also. We are all trying to push high standards, but knowing how to do that in this environment is challenging. I'm still learning.

And as far as how I spend my development time, I never know how that's gonna go till I wake up in the morning. Welcome to the wild frontier of maemo.org!

How do you figure?