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2011-05-14 , 15:40
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Originally Posted by xerxes2 View Post
If it's MeeGo or not has absolutely nothing to do with what kind of gui it uses. You can use whatever gui you wish on MeeGo or write your own. Just look at Android where the stock gui is rarely used anymore. To be able to call your os meego compliant it has to be just that, and Harmattan clearly is not as it's based on Maemo.
And Meego is based on Maemo+Moblin! Does gthis mnean Meego is not Meego???

Seriously give me an example where it breaks compliance. Except package managment. Is it that hard??
 
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2011-05-14 , 15:44
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#332
Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
And Meego is based on Maemo+Moblin! Does gthis mnean Meego is not Meego???

Seriously give me an example where it breaks compliance. Except package managment. Is it that hard??
Is that not enough?
 
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2011-05-14 , 15:46
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#333
Originally Posted by Jedibeeftrix View Post
i desperately want the n950 to be a success, and i am trying not to prejudge the launch....................................... but why the hell isn't the n950 running straight meego?
Long answer: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=2719

Short answer: Qt-SDK 1.1 does not support RPM and that makes it impossible for Nokia to base Harmattan on MeeGo. If Nokia continue to make open devices I guess that Qt-SDK 1.2 will support RPM and Nokia will move to MeeGo shortly after that.

Originally Posted by Jedibeeftrix View Post
if Nokia were still developing maemo alongside meego a year after the projects merged then i don't blame Elop for deciding Nokia would never turn it into a mobile ecosystem able to compete with IOS and android!
I thought the same too but if I may guess Nokia was pretty close to release the Harmattan device long ago but then it got delayed again and again and again and here we are ... still no harmattan device released. But done is done, hopefully the next device after N9/N950 will be based on MeeGo.
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2011-05-14 , 15:48
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#334
Originally Posted by geohsia View Post
To be honest I'm not sure what you guys are arguing about. Months ago we knew that Harmattan-MeeGo would not be the actual MeeGo source code but would be MeeGo compliant in every way that was relevant and as a result would be branded MeeGo. Nothing has changed right?

As to the question whether a Harmattan MeeGo app could be installed without modification onto MeeGo proper and I thought the answer was no and was already decided.
it is questionable cause some people her seens to not know what Meego really is. I mean it is ok to brand Meego it could have closed components? what libs is not compliant? where does Nokia break compliaance? I know only one and thats packagemanager. But seems there is alot of experts in this forum who says it breaks more but none of them have actuallhy showed me any proof.

Personally I dont know if apps installed on XX device must be allowed to work on Meego core to be Meego compliant I doubt so cause different devices has different HW.
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2011-05-14 , 15:52
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#335
Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
And Meego is based on Maemo+Moblin! Does gthis mnean Meego is not Meego???

Seriously give me an example where it breaks compliance. Except package managment. Is it that hard??
MeeGo is based on Moblin not Maemo. And a couple of other things that differs between Maemo and MeeGo besides package management: Maemo uses Busybox and Sysv initsystem and all of Debian's /etc. MeeGo uses Bash, Coreutils and Upstart initsystem. The next MeeGo will hopefully use Systemd too. And I'm sure there are plenty of other things too but these are the most important ones I can think of right now.

Edit: So to clarify:

Maemo: Busybox, DEB and Sysv
MeeGo: Bash, Coreutils, RPM and Upstart
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2011-05-14 , 15:53
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Originally Posted by tswindell View Post
Is that not enough?
No because people here talks like it is way more than that? if its only this I dont sede any problem at all.
 
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2011-05-14 , 16:29
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Ok .. I just registered to tell you this.

I am a nokia employee who works on symbian (dont know why) but have seen the meego device and used it.

You guys are in for an absolute treat, it is the most incredible device I have ever seen. I dont want to divulge more information, but I guarantee you guys that you will love it !!
 

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2011-05-14 , 16:36
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#338
Originally Posted by sjgadsby View Post
Harmattan is hardfp, so Maemo 5 applications will require recompilation, at a minimum, before they will run.
Even so, it is not too unreasonable to assume there will be a sizable number of apps available soon after product hits the market if migration is easy. That's what I meant.
 
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2011-05-14 , 17:19
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
I want NFC support but if HW is from 2010 I guess it will not have :-(
Actually you'd have to go back to 2006 to make sure it doesn't have NFC.

Nokia 6131 NFC
Near field communication (NFC) features
  • Contactless payment and ticketing capabilities
  • Access to mobile services and information with a simple touch
  • Uses Java specification requirement 257 (JSR 257) for third-party NFC applications
The PYARM-216V wandered through the FCC in February of 2007.
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Originally Posted by subszero View Post
Ok .. I just registered to tell you this.

I am a nokia employee who works on symbian (dont know why) but have seen the meego device and used it.

You guys are in for an absolute treat, it is the most incredible device I have ever seen. I dont want to divulge more information, but I guarantee you guys that you will love it !!
Dont be a party pooper tell us more
Like what CPU does it have and what kind of camera flash?
 

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