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2011-06-02 , 00:58
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#3391
Originally Posted by volt View Post
Even if your system was wide open for attacks, but only 1% of the net users used it, and if someone did want to write a worm for it, chances are that it'd still be hard to get it distributed. You've gotta, like, find one of them machines to be able to infect it.

Also, whoever writes them virii must really want to go for that specific group to pick a 1% segment.

This is simple logic and says nothing about Mac security, market share or virus availability, which I don't care to go into detail on since that's a fight without logic and facts.
It's indeed an interesting topic. You have a small population, a "niche" platform. We should in fact expect less viruses to be developed and to actually infect these machine a priori. But someone might be interested in doing it, and not only develop the virus but have the trouble to cause the infection. One excellent example of this happening was the Stuxnet virus!!

Now this is this in-topic? Well, we are a niche, and Nokia's Linux tablets, not to say their campaigns like the leaked Jessie's Girl video are the viruses!... Do you think their efforts are in touch with our specificity? And how many of us are immune to other diseases like Android or iPhone?
 
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2011-06-02 , 01:02
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#3392
Originally Posted by The Wizard of Huz View Post
The "If you are a mainstream OS you get viruses" is not most likely. It has nothing to do with security through obscurity. It does has to do in big part by the design of the OS.
*Offtopic start*
MacOS is like a house in the middle of nowhere, you may leave it open all the the time and nothing happens as hardly anyone is there trying to get it.
Win (as the mainstream OS) is like a house in the Bronx, you may even try to protect it, but there are so many bad guys trying to get it, you will struggle to succeed...

Just check the results of hacking contests. MacOS is *most* of the times hacked first!
MacOS is by no means safer than other OS. The amount of manpower put into checking for security wholes is just a lot lower, thats all. Thus, I would even say, if someone *wants* to get in, MacOS is a lot more vulnerable as Win...
Just my two cents...
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#3393
Originally Posted by shmerl View Post
Firefox dropped support for Gopher, but Lynx still can open it
Really??... The iceweasel (Debian's Firefox port) in my machines opens it! But not Chrome, unfortunately.

BTW, here is the link through a gopher proxy for the less archeological of you...

http://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/gw...nokiarumor.txt
 
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2011-06-02 , 01:38
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#3394
Originally Posted by nwerneck View Post
Really??... The iceweasel (Debian's Firefox port) in my machines opens it! But not Chrome, unfortunately.

BTW, here is the link through a gopher proxy for the less archeological of you...

http://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/gw...nokiarumor.txt
Has a firmware update ever set out to overclock a device? Seems unusual..

And is the OMAP3640 good enough for today's (or tomorows) requirements?
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2011-06-02 , 01:47
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#3395
Originally Posted by nwerneck View Post
Really??... The iceweasel (Debian's Firefox port) in my machines opens it! But not Chrome, unfortunately.
Mozilla planned to remove it for a while already:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=388195
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Gec...upport_removed
But the actual removal was released with Firefox 4, so unless you are running Iceweasel >=4 from http://mozilla.debian.net/packages/ Gopher should still work.
 
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2011-06-02 , 01:57
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#3396
Originally Posted by tswindell View Post
You're an SDF user? What's your username?

EDIT: Stupid question, answered by myself
Sure, SDF rocks! I host my website there... And my gopherspace. I love to log in there from a terminal in my N800 and read twitter using ttytter. But that is all I do there, I don't hang on the forum, etc... What's you login there?
 
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2011-06-02 , 02:27
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#3397
Sorry - but you are a total FOOL if you think the SEC actually does anything.

As someone who trades in the markets I have to say - you have no fvcking idea what you are talking about.

Originally Posted by shady View Post
if its true, what eldar is insinuating, then it would be one of the biggest SEC investigations in US history. theres no way Elop would get away with devaluing stock 40% (purchase price is based on market cap and a % over the current value of the company stock) and then selling it to a company whose stocks he hasnt completely divested himself from.

based on this MS doesnt need all of that they have enough antitrust issues to deal with than to create a fuster cluck like this.

so, it makes little sense.
 

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#3398
riiiiggghhtt.... have you ever watched CNBC ? They are still in business....

Originally Posted by volt View Post
You can only mess with the stock market like this once. If he is, nobody will ever listen to him again. As opposed to now, when half doesn't listen to him because they don't like him.
 
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#3399
Originally Posted by Faustino View Post
Has a firmware update ever set out to overclock a device? Seems unusual..

And is the OMAP3640 good enough for today's (or tomorows) requirements?
I am just inspiring myself on what happened to N800, that was originally "underclocked".

I picked OMAP3640 because it's the latest OMAP3, and with the largest clock rating...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Instruments_OMAP

The question is not so much if it's good enough for today's requirements, but if it was good enough for 2010's requirements! The idea is that the hardware we will get is something that was developed to mid/late 2010 (iPhone 4, Droid 2...), so no dual-core, but most certainly a 1GHz chip. I am being optimistic and picking up the 1.2 one, and creating the underclocked story to make the rumor sound legit.

Will it be good? I am pretty sure it will! (yeah, just like I am pretty sure of all the other crap I wrote there! )
 
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Originally Posted by Frappacino View Post
Sorry - but you are a total FOOL if you think the SEC actually does anything.
They do things. They're sorta like meter maids.
 
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