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Is SD212 enough to smooth working android aplication? Is there any comparison with SD400 8930?
 

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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
Perhaps I'm missing some bit of this dialogue; but why is any of this important on a community/dev device? It's different than other prior Nokia device programs, but not too dissimilar to the BlackBerry Dev Alpha B device - something given out to a cross-section of folks, mostly devs, not "sold" but sent out and represented an incoming device; in this case the BlackBerry Z10.

The convo seems to overlook that... or something and has gotten into certificate particulars for a device that's not really sold, but exists for other reasons.

Or... am I missing something huge? Which very well might be the case.

Sorry to ask such a potentially stupid question but this whole convo seems just off to me from afar and isn't where it's important (to me)

Thanks in advance.
It's not the device, It's their way of selling it.
 

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Originally Posted by kinggo View Post
It's not the device, It's their way of selling it.
Thanks for your clarification. So you disagree with how they're selling it? Or the fact there's a fee attached to this device at all?
 

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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
Thanks for your clarification. So you disagree with how they're selling it? Or the fact there's a fee attached to this device at all?
Come on it is so clear this is a trick to be able to sell phone without standing the warranty obligation. But they have no choice,cause they don't have enough money.

I dont know if you want to show that Jolla is bad and scamming company,trying to sell phones in a bad way, or if you want to say they should offer device to developers for free.

For me is clear this is a way to provide intex device to fans,without having to guarantee warranty. But they have no alternative, apart not offering the device at all. It is a way to import intex devices in a semi official way, avoiding people relying on Indian or travelling friends.
From mine, I am quite confident they will deal warranty issues in a friendly way, without too much avoidance . But they need to feel legally free from that, cause otherwise they could be potentially be in troubles. And in this way they dont have to set phisical places for reparation, legal procedures and so on.
I am not saying is a good solution, I am not saying it worth the value ( even if I bought one), I am just saying is a solution to a problem (whether right or wrong is totally subjective)

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Originally Posted by itdoesntmatt View Post
Come on it is so clear this is a trick to be able to sell phone without standing the warranty obligation. But they have no choice,cause they don't have enough money.
I was honestly asking since I do not get the concern.

I dont know if you want to show that Jolla is bad and scamming company,trying to sell phones in a bad way, or if you want to say they should offer device to developers for free.
For me, neither. I do not feel either way about the way it's being handled and stated (or so I thought) clearly that this ongoing discussion didn't make sense to me. It's a device for advanced users/devs that's being sold at a minimum but it might not have some certification that's causing this discussion.

Your comments makes me think it's something else.

For me is clear this is a way to provide intex device to fans,without having to guarantee warranty. But they have no alternative, apart not offering the device at all. It is a way to import intex devices in a semi official way, avoiding people relying on Indian or travelling friends.
I can see your point here. Thanks for sharing.
 

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I don't think that Jolla is a bad company and i appreciate having the choice.

But this is not about Jolla not having the money to cover the costs of proper warranty. Intex will probably sell Jolla the Jolla C somewhat cheaper if Jolla doesn't want warranty for the customers. But the same customers would be willing to pay the extra costs. We're talking about 5-10 EUR here.

Unless there's something wrong with the devices.
 

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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
I was honestly asking since I do not get the concern.



For me, neither. I do not feel either way about the way it's being handled and stated (or so I thought) clearly that this ongoing discussion didn't make sense to me. It's a device for advanced users/devs that's being sold at a minimum but it might not have some certification that's causing this discussion.

Your comments makes me think it's something else.



I can see your point here. Thanks for sharing.
The discussion about certification is cause- speaking for myself- I dont wish to use a potentially harmful device and in general this could be not legal.

For the last sentence, that is actually what I think. And I guess that if intex was selling the device here, Jolla c wouldn't exist at all. Maybe i am delusional, but maybe not .
 

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I don't think that a device is harmful if Indian authorities have no problems with it. At least not more harmful than cheap chinese batteries we like to buy
 

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Originally Posted by Veraendert View Post
I don't think that Jolla is a bad company and i appreciate having the choice.

But this is not about Jolla not having the money to cover the costs of proper warranty. Intex will probably sell Jolla the Jolla C somewhat cheaper if Jolla doesn't want warranty for the customers. But the same customers would be willing to pay the extra costs. We're talking about 5-10 EUR here.

Unless there's something wrong with the devices.
Since Jolla is selling device and not intex, Jolla would have to satisfy all legal requirements for a warranty, wich afaik include customer care service,phisical address to send device, legal procedures and we can carry on.. Is not just about the fee to pay to intex buddies
 

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Originally Posted by itdoesntmatt View Post
...or if you want to say they should offer device to developers for free.
IMO they should have done that 3 years ago. Along with financial incentives for finding bugs and more for fixing them. Sailfish might have been a usable OS already with some attractive apps, not for geeks only as it is now.

Their behavioral patterns suggests that they have given up around mid-2015.
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