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2011-06-03
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Originally Posted by Koajwujwer123
For one I like the tight integration. It is much better than to open an app for every service like on every other device. That eats away your battery. This is one thing I really like about the N900.
well this is not strictly for geek people. trying for mass appeal. well facebook , twitter , im comms all accessible from single panel. nice google integration too. understand what i mean ? cant go more specific due to obvious reasons.
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2011-06-03
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Originally Posted by jakiman
You can be happy with your 'niche' phone and not wish this is the company's only phone.
So you rather Nokia to make a non-mainstream phone which sells less?
You seem to believe in Apples model in "one phone to rule them all". Nokia does not do this. They care about having products to satisfy local needs, for example. They care about creating multiple models. Look at the Symbian^3 phones, one has a hardware keyboard, one has a great camera, one is slim and cheaper...
Of course Linux devices are a smaller market, and that should allow less flexibility, but when the N810 came around less then one year after the N800, it was seen by many as a variation to satisfy different needs.
As consumers, we must be true to ourselves, and look to satisfy our needs, and not spend so much time caring if the product will attract many other users or not. Of course is good to use something that is very popular, but this is not paramount.
We live in the "long tail". This is a long tail project. It might become pop one day, who knows? I am concerned with having my "dream" device first of all.
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2011-06-03
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby
I guess Nokia never learnt to listen to customers then. They always were too arrogant to move quickly and react fast on changes in the market place. Like how they lost market share in North America by not releasing flip phones.
People in this community have been calling on Nokia to produce larger format Internet Tablets since before Apple released the iPhone, not just since the iPad. Again and again, Nokia employees flatly declared that Maemo was designed for handheld, pocket-sized devices and they had no interest in changing that.
P.S.: This thread picked up speed again
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2011-06-03
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Originally Posted by Brock
The masses also want an eco-system with tons of apps with continual support - this phone will NOT have it - its OS is DEAD out of the gate. Did you miss the fact that mass consumer devices are about the battle of ecosystems now ?
i think everybody agrees that the mass (the american idol watching guys, not us) wants a slim device (without a hwkb) and nokia wants to sell as many phones as possible, so i agree with nokia that their decision is the best to make money and to (maybe) "disrupt" the market.
This is not a device to seriously penetrate for the mass market. You will be a fool to think that.
Originally Posted by Brock
Unlike you - we do not have a spare XXX Euros sitting around in our pocket to buy phones we do NOT like to use.
my advice for hwkb-lovers: buy the device, regardless of having the hwkb or not. If the N9 (without hwkb) sells well, nokia could thing about a sucessor (or "sister" model) with a keyboard. but if it doesnt sell well, nokia would be confirmed about their decision going wp.
Unlike you, our cash is LIMITED and we have budgets to work with.
So sorry, your advice is useless to poor plebs like us who have to work full time.
.... Gods you sound the arrogant pompous ***.
Nokia already fvcked many of us once - so many of us want to DONATE money to an entity many of us now DESPISE, in hope that entity MAY have a road to damascus moment sometime in the future ?
Do you know how ridiculous you sound ?
At least abill MAKES an effort to sound sane - you just throw out stupid statements.
Originally Posted by Brock
NO - how about using some common sense - instead of donating your money to some entity because of brand name (MEEGO!), look at each individual phone AS IT IS RELEASED, and if you like it - THEN BUY IT.
So, if you want a maemo/meego device next year, buy a maemo/meego phone this year and hope for a big hit.
Again - unlike you - many here do not have money to fling around buying expensive toys.
Talk about Nokia fanboi Stockholm Syndrome - you have it in spades.
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2011-06-03
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Frappacino: I mostly agree with you (only buy the device if you really like it) but please calm down a little bit. It's just a mobile device. A game if we want to name it like that. Not anything affecting our real life as much to "put blood in it".
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2011-06-03
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Originally Posted by nwerneck
I agree. But none has all. Not good for the bottom line I guess. Why no E7 type of device with N8 camera? The N900 was as close as something can come to a super phone. Hopefully the Harmattan device will be a super phone.
They care about having products to satisfy local needs, for example. They care about creating multiple models. Look at the Symbian^3 phones, one has a hardware keyboard, one has a great camera, one is slim and cheaper...
Originally Posted by nwerneck
Again I agree with you. Instead of looking at a device and using it to the extent it lets you use it (iPhone anyone?), people should look at what they want from a device and then buy the device that fits their needs.
As consumers, we must be true to ourselves, and look to satisfy our needs, and not spend so much time caring if the product will attract many other users or not. Of course is good to use something that is very popular, but this is not paramount.
We live in the "long tail". This is a long tail project. It might become pop one day, who knows? I am concerned with having my "dream" device first of all.
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2011-06-03
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its not the phone - I just hate fanboy attitudes like this.
so many here put down iphone "fanbois" because they buy anything steve jobs shoves down their throat
yet here is this guy advocating the same thing because it might (doesnt even have !) a meego sticker on it.
so many here put down iphone "fanbois" because they buy anything steve jobs shoves down their throat
yet here is this guy advocating the same thing because it might (doesnt even have !) a meego sticker on it.
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2011-06-03
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I agree with you Frappacino but please keep it civil, you could've said the same with a gentler choice of words.
Oh, abill_uk and sane must be the strongest oxym0ron ever uttered.
oxym oron is censored
Oh, abill_uk and sane must be the strongest oxym0ron ever uttered.
oxym oron is censored
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2011-06-03
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Originally Posted by nwerneck
Ahh. Obviously you don't know me well enough.
You can be happy with your 'niche' phone and not wish this is the company's only phone.
You seem to believe in Apples model in "one phone to rule them all". Nokia does not do this. They care about having products to satisfy local needs, for example. They care about creating multiple models. Look at the Symbian^3 phones, one has a hardware keyboard, one has a great camera, one is slim and cheaper....
I hate Apple's model. I hate Android's model also. Their OSes don't interest me. It's too mainstream (aka, too simplified). That's why I still use my N900 daily as my main phone. (I even bought SGS2 last month then sold it 2 weeks after as I couldn't stand it not having hw keyboard or a proper multitasking capability)Just look at their share prices. Would you risk it on Meego/Harmattan which has no ecosystem and have to build it from ground up? I would love for them to try. But the company doesn't have that luxury of time nor money anymore. They did before and still look where Maemo ended up after all those years.
Also, we have been there and done that already with Maemo. Yes, it was step 1 of 5 and was step 4 of 5 with Maemo5. But seems Nokia(Elop) don't believe Harmattan is step 5 of 5 yet. So like it or not, Nokia needs to come back up first before investing more into their own OS. So I really hope they succeed with WP7 phones so that they will re-try to satisfy us as well.
But for now, I still want the N9. HW keyboard or not!!
I want something different and I know it will be.
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