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2009-05-26
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#352
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Originally Posted by benny1967
I've considered the OQO in the past, it has pretty much exactly the feature-set I'd like, but the main problem I have with it is that it's really too large to fit in a pocket (well at least my pockets, it's rather thick...), and I've got a feeling it runs rather hot. Other issue is battery life is not too good compared to the N810, only 3.5 hours according to their specs, and though the battery is user-removable it's really too bulky for it to be practical to carry around spares all the time. Well maybe if you had a bag, but I like the tiny BP-4L batteries, I can always have at least 2 or 3 spares with me in my pocket.
it'll probably have to be something like OQO... I could live with the size and weight, the N810 was the lower limit anyway.
Other than that though the feature-set is king for the size of device, too bad it also comes with a king-sized price, $1,600 to $2,500 depending on options, at least where I've seen it. Too much for CyberCat I'm afraid...
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2009-05-26
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#353
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Originally Posted by CyberCat
I'm not looking for a device to put in my pocket. That's what I have a phone for. (And no, the N900 won't be my new phone: it's too large for that.) - I'd put it where I had my N810: on the table at home or in my bag when I travel.
I've considered the OQO in the past, it has pretty much exactly the feature-set I'd like, but the main problem I have with it is that it's really too large to fit in a pocket (well at least my pockets, it's rather thick...),
Originally Posted by CyberCat
If I find a device that really does what I want, I'll pay for it.
Other than that though the feature-set is king for the size of device, too bad it also comes with a king-sized price, $1,600 to $2,500 depending on options, at least where I've seen it. Too much for CyberCat I'm afraid...
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2009-05-26
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#354
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OQO is a really beautiful piece of hardware. But when you try to cram all the HW specs you can come up with into one small package, you currently end up with a apprx. 1000 dollar piece that isn't particularly portable or elegant. Think Sony Vaio for a bulkier example. It's a really "nasty" (although I think of it as a really interesting) tradeoff between size, performance and price. A bit like speed, quality and price in SW development: you can have two of them, but not all of them.
Now, hardware is developing all the time. In a few years hardware specs that many have mentioned here become reality in reasonable prices. Minituarization isn't cheap, and it takes some time, that's why they'll always be a couple of years behind the non-minituarized versions. I think the real issue is that they will always be "slower". Trying to run what people run on their "fast" computers as such on "slow" computers - it's all relative - will make it feel slow.
Now, hardware is developing all the time. In a few years hardware specs that many have mentioned here become reality in reasonable prices. Minituarization isn't cheap, and it takes some time, that's why they'll always be a couple of years behind the non-minituarized versions. I think the real issue is that they will always be "slower". Trying to run what people run on their "fast" computers as such on "slow" computers - it's all relative - will make it feel slow.
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2009-05-26
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#355
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Originally Posted by benny1967
I completely agree, just that little matter of finding it first.
If I find a device that really does what I want, I'll pay for it.
I'm not too worried though, the interest in these types of devices seems to have really picked up from when I got my IT, so I've got a feeling finding a good successor will not prove to be too difficult.
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2009-05-26
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#356
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Originally Posted by benny1967
Says who? Games on phones, esp. on the iPhone and Android, are getting pretty sophisticated. Why wouldn't people play similar games on a Maemo phone?
you don't do such things on phones, anyway, stylus or not.
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2009-05-26
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Originally Posted by CyberCat
Well, the first batch of new ARM-based netbooks is about to be introduced shortly and it appears that the manufacturers are going to differentiate the ARM-books by aiming at form factors slightly smaller than the average 10-inch(+) netbook. That's not pocketable, but with more OEMs involved I'd be surprised if there wasn't further evolution towards the space between smaller netbooks and the larger "smartphones" with 3.5-inch screen.
I guess I better start looking, do you have any suggestions for good alternatives? I'm trying to find something that combines open software with pocketable size and stylus-driven touch screen.
At this point it seems rather unfortunate that the more generic "Internet Tablet (Talk)" community has been branded (co-opted?) with the Nokia-lead Maemo label since the future of the compact tablet format appears to lie somewhere outside Nokia's field of vision.
I think many of us already saw scribblings on the wall as time kept passing after the release of Maemo 4 (year and a half ago) with very little further progress, and later when Maemo 5 was confirmed not to support the existing Internet Tablets...
Maybe it's time for Nokia to come clean and tell us in unequivocal terms whether there will in fact be another tablet format device in the pipeline or just cut the grumbling masses loose.
Mer with its up-to-date apps (like Tear) looks interesting as the life support system for the existing tablets, but where will its evolution lead (as an open-source offshoot of Nokia's Maemo) if there will be no further tablet form factor devices from Nokia? Will Moblin scale down to 4-5-inch screens and finger/stylus use? What will come of Hildon?
See, I still have no idea where this all is heading...!
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2009-05-26
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Nokia doing exactly the same I've come to hate Palm for: creating yet another iPhone clone.
Why am I not surprised?
This is EXACTLY what happened with Palm; some of the posts here are exact copies of posts that were written in a Palm forum I know.
(I assume you know the story: Palm decided to replace their legacy but useful OS into a trendy but useless "web"OS with Maemo5-sized interface, leaving all Palm power users on the sand)
Fortunately, this is not confirmed, and right now the rumors are mostly clueless (they do not even know the front dot is the ambient light sensor). There's still hope.
Why am I not surprised?
This is EXACTLY what happened with Palm; some of the posts here are exact copies of posts that were written in a Palm forum I know.
(I assume you know the story: Palm decided to replace their legacy but useful OS into a trendy but useless "web"OS with Maemo5-sized interface, leaving all Palm power users on the sand)
Fortunately, this is not confirmed, and right now the rumors are mostly clueless (they do not even know the front dot is the ambient light sensor). There's still hope.
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2009-05-26
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Originally Posted by dick-richardson
A stylus is a lot better for drawing that the tip of a finger. I use it a lot. with a capacitive screen, NIT would be useless for me.
If it's a capacitive screen with a hardware keyboard, why would you really need a stylus? ...
I believe Nokia NIT shouldn't compete with iphone, at least not by making the same choices than Apple for the iPhone.
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2009-05-26
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At this point it seems rather unfortunate that the more generic "Internet Tablet (Talk)" community has been branded (co-opted?) with the Nokia-lead Maemo label since the future of the compact tablet format appears to lie somewhere outside Nokia's field of vision.
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it'll probably have to be something like OQO... I could live with the size and weight, the N810 was the lower limit anyway. OTOH:
http://i.gizmodo.com/5210804/rumor-h...for-this-world
so....
but that's the form factor i'm looking for, preferrably without a hard disc, though, and with good GNU/linux support. Maybe finally the Atom MID market will get alive (although I wonder why it should after being dead for so long) and we'll get something from there.
In case everything else fails, a very small netbook would be the only way out of this crisis.