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Another positive experience....
Couldn't see the update on my dual boot when booting from SD, so;

apt-get clean
apt-get upgrade
reboot
no change in version numbers, sort of expected that.
reboot to flash
update via app manager
reboot
run penguinbaits install-tools
(forget that I didn't uninstall last time, uninstall install-tools, reinstall install tools.. 8-)
reboot
choose SD
version numbers updated...
all stable, and microb is noticeably faster on gmail, youtube, ....
thanks to all who have taken the time to post their results here... watching and learning from all of your examples and help

extra thanks to penguinbait and fanoush you guys rock.
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I still don't understand how updating flash (internal build in memory) would update a boot from SD partition. Maybe the kernel yes. But individual packages should have to be updated on both the flash and SD correct?
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
I always delete the folder with all the bundled manuals, and I've never had trouble. So it's not quite that brittle.
I also deleted the Manuals, Video, and Music on both OS partitions and they both updated fine. I kept the ~/MyDocs/.* folders, though.

I don't think there is a hard-and-fast rule governing the success of this update...
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#354
With regards to my previous post. After playing around with my N810 and router (N1 Vision), my N810 will only connect and actually work with WPA2 enabled, not WPA. It worked fine before.

Any ideas?
 
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Couldn't see the update on my dual boot when booting from SD
I *can* see the update when I boot from sd card on my n810.
Does that mean it is safe to upgrade the sd and leave the
flash version as is?

(Actually, I tried once to run the update from the sd booted
version and got a "corrupt installation file" error after the
download. What's with that??)
 
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Originally Posted by Oberon85 View Post
run penguinbaits install-tools
(forget that I didn't uninstall last time, uninstall install-tools, reinstall install tools.. 8-)
reboot
choose SD
version numbers updated...
Think again. I too updated flash first and saw that version numbers were updated. But the cool kids around here insisted that, even so, updating flash without updating SD while booting from SD does not do the trick. I suggest that you boot from SD and follow the steps set out here.

Last edited by lm2; 2008-10-01 at 16:04.
 
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Originally Posted by albright View Post
I *can* see the update when I boot from sd card on my n810.
Does that mean it is safe to upgrade the sd and leave the
flash version as is?

(Actually, I tried once to run the update from the sd booted
version and got a "corrupt installation file" error after the
download. What's with that??)
Not sure about the last part, but yes, it is safe to install from SD first. (You will not have to update flash, if you don't want to--or so Benson says...)

In fact, if you look at my post immediately above, you'll see that you *should not* update flash first. Your system may be tricked into thinking that the SD has thereby been already updated.
 
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i think you missed the first part of my post:
"apt-get clean
apt-get upgrade
reboot
no change in version numbers, sort of expected that.
reboot to flash"
the apt-get upgrade par t of this is where my SD was updated... watched it download 33mb of stuff including microb, etc, install, setup, the works. All I meant to say was that even though I could not see the SSU in app manager, I was able to upgrade from the cli, and that after doing the upgrade to my SD, the version numbers had not changed in control panel, about product screen. I have verifired that the upgraded software version in SD and flash match by comparing the upgrade output log I made in SD to the app manager log from flash.

all still working well...
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FYI. 3 (not 4) different flash partitions are being updated (I think):

the linux kernel
the bootstrap OS referred to as initfs
and the runtime OS referred to as rootfs

If the boot loader partition needed to be updated this would have been a reflash.

For mulit-booters, rootfs is the only thing that is on your SD. All runtime OS's share the kernel and the initfs and that is why you're seeing version numbers change before you update your SD OS's. You need to update and then re-fanoush for all of your runtime OS partitions.

It wouldn't be a bad idea to have an mtd diagram considering the sophistication of this community. Go to the OpenWRT.org project for some more embedded linux info. Ignorance has turned out not to be bliss.

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Originally Posted by Oberon85 View Post
i think you missed the first part of my post:
"apt-get clean
apt-get upgrade
reboot
no change in version numbers, sort of expected that.
reboot to flash"
the apt-get upgrade par t of this is where my SD was updated... watched it download 33mb of stuff including microb, etc, install, setup, the works. All I meant to say was that even though I could not see the SSU in app manager, I was able to upgrade from the cli, and that after doing the upgrade to my SD, the version numbers had not changed in control panel, about product screen. I have verifired that the upgraded software version in SD and flash match by comparing the upgrade output log I made in SD to the app manager log from flash.

all still working well...
Can you go to your app manager and check if the os 2008 upgrade has a red exclamation mark with borked in the details?

thanks
 
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