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Originally Posted by cfh11
Early adopters are usually the first (and biggest) losers.
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2010-12-14
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Er, I thought my point was that despite what the rest of the article says, in the quote from Anssi Vanjoki he didn't say it. I don't think Nokia can be held to task for something that wasn't promised in the first place.
He might have said it, but Anssi Vanjoki has left Nokia. Things have changed since then.
If it comes, so be it. But to be honest, for it to come, it would be so late in the game, I would be utterly surprised if it did.
Yes it would be nice if we had got the same Ovi Maps as Symbian, and arguably they should have provided it since it is development they'd have to do sooner or later for the planned mainstream version of Meamo (well Meego now, but at the time the plans were still for Meamo). But I'm not going to whinge about not getting something that was never promised in the first place.
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2010-12-14
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#354
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby
Several
What do you propose as a replacement?
* Roumors that Nokia has therminated software support for N900
* Vent Here (#23)
* Anotherr thread where confusion between N900 and Maemo heats up discussion
Originally Posted by gerbick
Thay usually are, but they don't have to be. And if there was ever a company with a good image it was Nokia. And if there was ever a time for Nokia, it was now, when losing ground. We hoped.
Early adopters are usually the first (and biggest) losers.
Originally Posted by Netweaver
After a few months in you lovely country, I can safely say I know what you are talking about. Still, you know, I'm all for jackets.
Say that to the cheerful, alcohol filled UK guys and girls at night time in the High Street, the further up north you go, the less cloths they wear when going out in wintertime, exactly because jackets are for "whuz"/sissies ...So some people do see this kind of thinking as arguments
Not that I condone or recommend such thinking, it does exist ...
just my 1 cent
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N900 dead and Nokia no longer replaces them. Thanks for all the fish.
Keep the forums clean: use "Thanks" button instead of the thank you post.
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2010-12-14
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Oh my god... are we talking about NOKIA or some other small crap company?
A big, competitive and growing company does not use "Never promised" way to justify a clear absence of great marketing and management capacities, on the contrary such company surprises its customers and the market every single day!
A big, competitive and growing company does not use "Never promised" way to justify a clear absence of great marketing and management capacities, on the contrary such company surprises its customers and the market every single day!
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2010-12-14
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" This is backed by what the Executive Vice President of Nokia, Anssi Vanjoki, had to say at yesterday’s launch event. Vanjoki pointed out that “in later dates we will also be increasing the number of support for this [sic] and certainly moving forward it will also support Maemo”
Originally Posted by retsaw
Given the context it could be argued irrefutably that "Ovi Maps with free Voice Navigation" is what any normal person would conclude from Vanjoki's statement. Note that Ovi Maps prior to 3.03 already had voice navigation and just required payment to Nokia to have it activated (ie all the code/etc is already there). So basically voice navigation is not something new to Ovi Maps at the time of that particular launch event, it is something already well established. What was new was that they removed the code that checked whether you have paid for voice navigation, called it 3.03 and made it available for only a few select phone models - these tend to be the newer phones at that time. When asked why it wasn't available on "older" phones, Nokia's lame excuse was that there were technical problems preventing them from releasing 3.03 for older phones (even though these "older" phones were running the paid for voice navigation just fine).
To me that quote just reads as Ovi Maps will be coming to Maemo, not a specific version of it. I'm disappointed that Ovi Maps on the N900 isn't as good as the version on Symbian-based Nokias, but you need a better source than that to prove Nokia actually promised voice navigation for the N900.
So at an event trumpeting Ovi Maps with Free Voice Navigation and a Nokia executive says later there will be a Maemo version, it's not surprising that people are a bit disappointed when the Maemo version turns out to be a pre-alpha of some ancient version of smart2go!
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2010-12-14
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Originally Posted by msa
Not necessarily.
as i said: there is more to it than just delivering physical hardware.
I did not see any software contract between Nokia and me beside the
software that was already built in.
The part that was built in has to run during guarantee.
Otoh I can change so much on the N900 that it will be hard to say
who broke what if it fails.
The service from Nokia would be a "bring it back to initial state"-must and from my provider a "bring it back to the state how my provider delivered it"-must.
Not less.
Not more.
Originally Posted by msa
No, but why does everybody expect that Nokia does not discontinue
is apple does is wrong, nokia has to do so too?
while Apple does?
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2010-12-14
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#358
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Originally Posted by Kamen
Nothing personal.
Has anyone actually looked at the tags for this thread lol...
People putting tags to a thread for fun is no different than putting poison in a well... when nobody is watching. Period.
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2010-12-14
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Originally Posted by extendedping
sigh...so we are talking about games...again...
how many things were people supposed to check without actually owning the phone? I mean I checked that there was a chess app before buying, how could I know that it was barely usable and that you could not even distinguish the pieces?
E.g. going into a store (if there is one around) and trying it?
Afair there was also a N900 emulator...
Originally Posted by extendedping
Unusable?
btw I have a friend who plays chess and is a linux admin and I showed him the phone. he then asked to see the chess app and as it was basically unusable he asked me to install different one. when I said there were no more choices he just laughed and picked up his htc evo.
I applaud this forum and linux in general but no way am I jumping on the "thank you nokia" bandwagon regarding this device. that's almost like having stockholm syndrome...
Did you expect 8cm large figures?
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2010-12-14
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oh well. still love the little sucker.
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