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2008-04-10 , 18:25
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If it's bezel-less and completely flat you can just apply protective film across the whole surface? And if that gets scratched up too much just remove it and replace it with another? That's what I've done with my iPhone. It's also less dirty as there's not a crevice where dirt can accumulate.

I second the concerns with the usability of the touchscreen due to the bezel. On my N810, before applying the fat scrollbar hack, when I was running the web browser in fullscreen mode I could not scroll with my finger, I had to break out the stylus. I was able to scroll vertically in the non-full screen mode because it's offset from the edge by 10 pixels). I definitely think if there wasn't a bezel you'd have a bit more usable real estate on the screen.

Originally Posted by Benson View Post
The HP49G+. Grrrrrr.... Proud owner of one. Now with a broken display.

While rampant is too strong a word, I think there's more of those devices broken than there ought to be; scratches too, from sliding on flat surfaces, though those are typically prevented by as much as a ridge along one side of the screen. I think they've eased the bezel angle a good bit on the N810, haven't gotten my hands on one yet, but it looks good. I'll admit the N800's is a bit steep, but the solution (I feel) lies with shallower angles, not reduced (or removed) depth. Oh, and half (2 out of 4) the iPhones whose owners I know wear protective silicone or hard cases, which give you an artificial bezel anyway.
 

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Benson is offline Benson
2008-04-10 , 18:56
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Scratches, yes; but all the protective films in the world won't save a screen from crushing while leaving the touchscreen workable. I have no problem hitting the scrollbars with my finger on the N800, and I don't have small fingers. I just lay my thumb against the bezel and slide it up and down. For cleaning, the N800's faceplate pops off quite easily; I do that every month or so to clean the whole screen. A little less convenient, but I'll put up with it...

To each his own; I just wish there was a way to make the bezel user-selectable; unfortunately, the only way I can see is to make a flat-faced device and rely on aftermarket cases that provide a bezel, and something tells me there won't be as many aftermarket accessories available for the N900 as the iPhone.
 
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2008-04-10 , 19:05
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Ahh, thanks for clarifying your concern. Yes, if the device is placed upside down you'd be putting needless stress on the surface of the LCD. I've never even *thought* of doing so with any of my devices but I suppose someone might be careless and this might result in cracks in the LCD.

I can't test it now that I have fat scrollbars but yes it definitely wasn't registering in fullscreen mode.

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Scratches, yes; but all the protective films in the world won't save a screen from crushing while leaving the touchscreen workable. I have no problem hitting the scrollbars with my finger on the N800, and I don't have small fingers. I just lay my thumb against the bezel and slide it up and down. For cleaning, the N800's faceplate pops off quite easily; I do that every month or so to clean the whole screen. A little less convenient, but I'll put up with it...

To each his own; I just wish there was a way to make the bezel user-selectable; unfortunately, the only way I can see is to make a flat-faced device and rely on aftermarket cases that provide a bezel, and something tells me there won't be as many aftermarket accessories available for the N900 as the iPhone.
 
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2008-04-10 , 19:18
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Well, not putting the device upside down (I don't see any reason for putting a device screen-down on a flat surface, either), rather in a pocket of a backpack. Same pocket my HP48 lived in happily for years. But the textbooks inside the backpack did a number on the HP49+. Short of mounting "armor" on it, or sliding it into a hard case, there's really nothing convenient to be done when you need to carry such a device around with books.
 
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2008-04-10 , 19:28
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To be honest, Redshift hit on what I didn't say explicitly. The bezel is an issue if you're using primary your finger rather than a stylus. The other solution to make the NIT more finger friendly is to adjust the UI, like they did with the menus for OS2008 (which I've only heard about and not see myself, since I'm still on 2007HE). That is one of the things that I would like to see; the 900s continue on in the direction of more finger friendliness. Of course fattening the scroll bar (which hack was that? Is it available for the 770?) reduces some of the screen real estate, but I guess we can't have everything.
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2008-04-10 , 19:49
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That's just tweaking a GTK theme, you can do it on a 770, if you like, but I don't expect the .debs will work right. (Search for "scrool bar" [sic], you'll find it.)
 

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2008-04-10 , 20:02
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Originally Posted by iliaden View Post
Maybe not n900, but n910 definitely:
holographic projection & capture
teleportation network between the devices
mind reading for easier controls

for the n900, I'd settle only for:
future prediction
antigravitational pad to make it weightless

considering when the n910 will be out (looking at the time elapsed beteen device), this might actually happen
note: i'm not complaining; every device (except n810) had great improvements
i think bug labs have a teleportation addon planed for their device
 
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2008-04-11 , 01:01
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How about some form of eye tracking software using the embedded webcam camera, so that you can use your eye as a stylus? And while I'm off in left end of the plausibility field, how about we just dispense with the screen all together and incorporate one of Microvision's (microvision.com) retina painting display systems.
 
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2008-04-11 , 01:13
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Originally Posted by iamNarada View Post
And while I'm off in left end of the plausibility field, how about we just dispense with the screen all together and incorporate one of Microvision's (microvision.com) retina painting display systems.
I'll see your retinal projector and raise you Nokia's Internet Tabletification Program (Beware! Only a Paladin with a high constitution should watch the tape!).

Indecipherable screenshot for the weak willed:

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2008-04-11 , 01:22
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I....I think I'm going to pass on that. It didn't seem very sanitary. I mean, how often do they clean all that medical equipment!?
 
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