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2009-09-21
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#361
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Originally Posted by matthewcc
If both the Euro and the US version are same (as currently thought), your N900 will work ONLY on T-Mobile USA's 3G network (1700 Mhz).
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2009-09-21
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So now that this feature is not available what are the proposed alternatives for use cases? TransferJet?
Maybe a USB powered hub with USB host mode could solve this? 2 in 1.
It is possible to configure both features in software using the stock (!) firmware (don't know about Rockbox).
In theory, one could put a bigger 2"5 HDD in the H340 (stock is 2"5 40 GB, PATA) and use USB host mode to export this to the N900?
Or, is it then, that one would need to use the H340 because that is the device with USB host mode? In that case, a dumb device with a web interface (and preferably SSH) and USB host mode could function as a bridge.
Last edited by allnameswereout; 2009-09-21 at 15:35.
Originally Posted by attila77
Why doesn't Nokia use a FS which is specifically designed to run on flash like UBIFS or LogFS?
Folks, please, once and for all, let the system worry about flash wear, it's more than capable of doing it, don't burden yourself with it.
As for swap usage, it will definitively be used, Linux likes to keep memory empty for cache and buffers, so if you have something that isn't too active, it will end up on the swap sooner or later.
Originally Posted by quingu
N900 has USB support. You mean USB host mode.
WHAT?
Does that mean it's impossible to use any USB periphery with the n900 - not even with power injection?
All previous NITs had this feature. USB support missing on the n900 would be a huge letdown.
Maybe a USB powered hub with USB host mode could solve this? 2 in 1.
Originally Posted by Laughing Man
I can charge my Iriver H340 over USB, and I can also use USB host mode on it, but I never used USB host mode, and the device has 2 USB. (Since Iriver H340 doesn't have 3G I couldn't use it with my digicam to upload pictures.)
Ah so the reason why it wouldn't support USB host mode is because you can now charge the n900 over USB..
It is possible to configure both features in software using the stock (!) firmware (don't know about Rockbox).
In theory, one could put a bigger 2"5 HDD in the H340 (stock is 2"5 40 GB, PATA) and use USB host mode to export this to the N900?
Or, is it then, that one would need to use the H340 because that is the device with USB host mode? In that case, a dumb device with a web interface (and preferably SSH) and USB host mode could function as a bridge.
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2009-09-21
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout
Because that device is an eMMC block device, NOT a MTD device. Some years ago people realized it's a lot of fuss to work with MTD-s on the software level (wear leveling ? block management ? addressing ? error correction ? spare blocks ? MLC vs SLC ? CPU overhead ?), and put all this functionality, tailor made for that particular flash device, into something that is known as managed NAND (=aka eMMC).
So now that this feature is not available what are the proposed alternatives for use cases?
Why doesn't Nokia use a FS which is specifically designed to run on flash like UBIFS or LogFS?
Take a look for some pretty pictures at
http://download.micron.com/pdf/prese...nHEC_Cooke.pdf
(talks about eMMC around page 55)
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2009-09-21
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Originally Posted by deadmalc
I agree with this... For me, USB Host Mode would be nice, but USB charging was the deciding factor for me in upgrading.
I would disagree, I desperately need charging over USB.
Especially if I'm using the N900 as much as I think I will, with USB charging it means I can charge my device almost anywhere.
It's a pity we can't have both, but it sounds like they did try pretty hard and it just wouldn't work out.
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2009-09-22
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Originally Posted by ldrn
The problem isn't that it didn't work out, the problem is that we were strung along for so long: "Trust us with the details, we're sure when you see the lead Fremantle device it will be a great improvement and you'll love it".
It's a pity we can't have both, but it sounds like they did try pretty hard and it just wouldn't work out.
And now my trust has been betrayed: the N900 is missing the things I valued about the N8x0: the screen size, the big battery, and now this: the loss of USB host functionality.
Maybe I need to wait a year (or whatever) for the RX-71. It sure would be nice to know something useful about Nokia's directions forwards from here with this "product line" (if the widely-differing Maemo devices can even be called a "product line").
Maybe the RX-71 is a slate with a 4.3 inch screen, big battery, and two USB OTG ports. More likely not.
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2009-09-22
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#366
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well this IS only step 4 of a 5 step plan...
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2009-09-22
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Originally Posted by legendemeritus
So what features are going to be removed or downgraded for step 5?
well this IS only step 4 of a 5 step plan...
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2009-09-22
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Originally Posted by eiffel
On the other hand, I'm sure many people value the decreased screen size, the smaller casing and the other new features
The problem isn't that it didn't work out, the problem is that we were strung along for so long: "Trust us with the details, we're sure when you see the lead Fremantle device it will be a great improvement and you'll love it".
And now my trust has been betrayed: the N900 is missing the things I valued about the N8x0: the screen size, the big battery, and now this: the loss of USB host functionality.
Maybe I need to wait a year (or whatever) for the RX-71. It sure would be nice to know something useful about Nokia's directions forwards from here with this "product line" (if the widely-differing Maemo devices can even be called a "product line").
Maybe the RX-71 is a slate with a 4.3 inch screen, big battery, and two USB OTG ports. More likely not.
Regards,
Roger
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2009-09-22
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lol, heck if i know. I agree with u, Nokia is giving us no direction where they want to go with Maemo. i was just repeating a 'line' that we've all heard before. sorry if the sarcasm wasn't emphasized...
Last edited by legendemeritus; 2009-09-22 at 11:50.
Last edited by legendemeritus; 2009-09-22 at 11:50.
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2009-09-22
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
Read all the messages here about Swap, but can you switch off swap space in the settings? Or create a swap file or partition on a microSD on the N900?
Swap is on a separate partition, so neither data nor application space will "chew up" swap space. Besides, there's no sane reason to have more than 768MB of swap anyway.
Rich