Originally Posted by DanielW

Ok, to those disapointed about the N900 or angry at Nokia:

What exactly is that bad about the N900 or Nokia? What did they promise and not deliver?

The N900 works. Sure there are some bugs, sometimes things don't work. Every other phone, even more those with a quite new OS has such issues too. Nokia has already released 2 big and 3 small updates. And there will be at least one more bugfix release. Quite a lot of support for a phone with such a small marketshare and money in there.

we are supposed to be building the perfect OS from the base of maemo so yes bug addressing should be a priority

Then, webbrowsing is great with it. It works as a phone. Not with every feature you know from S60, but look at the iPhone also less features than S60. It has all the normal features like phone book, call log, speaker mode, and the core function doing calls works stable.

web browsing is phenomenal we only need active updates of the flash player to be perfect, the phone log system is decent the symbian version of 3 years ago was light years ahead

SMS works, as do the other well integrated IM services. SIP and skype voice is also very good integrated (quite unique). Sure some issues are there, but well there are updates. MMS is missing, but Nokia never promised that.

sms is a phone function and as a phone function it should work in portrait mode same with IM services, the lack of integrated MSN is also annoying, lack of mms is something i cant believe.

Media playing: The player is not really that great of an application. But it does it's job. UPN integration works, and on the video side, never had a phone before which played that much of my normal movie files without transcoding. With SIB/KMplayer it plays quite everything (limited by cpu power).

integrated player is normal, you have better luck with the community ones

Navigation/Maps: Ok, here one could get the impression, that Nokia kinda said it will come. But well real voice-guide navigation was never advertised or promised. (Some Nokia guys said it might come some day) One can find that bad as all their Symbian devices are getting it. But it seems Nokia simply hasn't it ready yet, and it is too much of an affort for them to speed that up. They may be focusing on a multitouch aware version for future devices. And I would rather see a really good version for MeeGo than a quick and dirty thing for now and later.

Navigation, what a joke for a flagship phone this is what shows that nokia has lost its north, they bought a damn maps company and they couldnt make a decent map app, and its sad you say you rather see something good in meego ? you can make the app multi touch and single touch in fact you need to make it first to maemo to evolve it to meego

Ovi: Ok, here Nokia on the technical side totaly fails. What's so hard about a payment system? But: What did you expect? For a device/OS with about 500k sold units, which big 3rd party company would invest much in development? And well that's not Nokias fault at all IMHO.

another joke, a store that is a link to a website then you download a .install and prompts the app manager why you dont make a decent app manager with free (community with QA) apps and paid apps so you have everything in one place

Nokia did quite good in getting community driven software development going. And when you look in extras-* you will see lots of great software. Some of a much better quality than anything you can find for S60.

not nokia, the love of open source made good community apps

For a OS with such a small market share the amount of quality software out there is amazing. What did you expect? Nokia paying developers to write software which will never sell enough to make a profit on itself? (btw: What software for what job are you missing?)

we are supposed to be making this community and OS ready to evolve, that means reporting bugs creating apps and giving ideas to nokia to finally get to the step 5 of 5, but they should deliver to us also.

MeeGo: Yeah it would be nice from Nokia to bring that to the N900. Did they ever promised that? No. Is it really something one can expect because everyone does that? No. Apple is by far the only company who did that. But not because they care sooo much about customers. More because they sold millions of the old iPhones. The update was there to make more money with the store.

But the N900 is a niche device. Really supporting MeeGo would mean maybe 2 more years of support for a phone with 500k sold units where 80% of users won't update anyway. So doing the adaption and support for like 2 years extra for 100k users? From which a lot will have a new device by that time anyways?

I mean: The first MeeGo device will most likely come arround first quarter 2011. By that time the N900 is 1,5 years on sell. 1,5 years at the high end smartphone segment is a lot. Those kind of users who most likely got an N900, are very likely to get a new phone until than anyhow. Nokia rather puts all efforts to make the Meego UX the best possible for the next device (Nxxx). If they fail there, MeeGo will fail on the mass market..

Communications: There Nokias IS lacking. One should expect more. But be real: Which other major company does that the way you expect it? Nokia has always delivered on their promises for the N900. Mostly later than expected but they did. More communition, yes I want it. But IMHO not something to really make soo much noise about, to be soo disapointed with. It is the normal annoying behavior you get from every other big company. Sad, but very true.

Overall: Nokia totaly fails on the technical side of OVI store, other than that the N900 and Nokia did hold on to what they've promised. And the N900 is a very nice phone. Fun to use. Missing features yes, but well other famous phones are also missing things. One even missed mms for a long time too.. There is a lot of software, more than you really can expect for a new low marketshare OS.

So don't call me fanboy now. You can argue against me, but do that based on facts, not with calling me fanboy or something. What did Nokia not deliver? (And more to help, what apps for what jobs are you missing?)

Originally Posted by Jack6428

Where are those games? They were supposed to come out ages ago...

Originally Posted by Dave999

did nokia said 3d roller coaster would be available for n900 or for the new cool amazing wonderful mighty meego device 2011?