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Originally Posted by Dave999
If only it could be that simple. :-)
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2011-06-04
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Originally Posted by tissot
Not being the iPhone expert, isn't the whole thing with iPhone that the apps are essentially closed once you switch to other apps. As long as they turn on quickly and maintain state, does it really matter if they stay on in the background?
I don't say it's fact, just my preference.
I'm btw writing these messaged from my iphone 4.
Iphone 4 multitasking is not bad, but i wanna clearly see what apps i have on, not list of apps i have previously opened.
Actually Android multitasking that i experienced on my GS is by far the worst there is.
As these devices are getting some serious umph inside i think having live multitasking where you leave webpage opening to the backround for example is sweet and able to easily see what apps are "live" is the way to go for me at least.
It would be different if maps has a proximity alert, telling me when I'm within an hr. or 5 miles or whatever but none have that. On my N900 Maps suck up my batteries and on vacation it's a pain so I have to turn it off. Whenever I need to track progress that means re-entering all necessary data which takes a long time. With iOS you just turn it on and it goes to where you relative to where you want to go.
I wish the Linux guys would look at mobile devices and understand that multitasking that you'd do on a desktop is not necessarily the same as for mobile usage and that they should have a multitasking framework that allows for both.
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2011-06-04
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Originally Posted by geohsia
I don't how it goes on paper but on my experience using iphone 4 if you leave webpage opening on the backround it process it for couple of sec and then freezes it.
Not being the iPhone expert, isn't the whole thing with iPhone that the apps are essentially closed once you switch to other apps. As long as they turn on quickly and maintain state, does it really matter if they stay on in the background?
It does remember pretty much endless number of apps where you left it and it does not slow the device at all. Though i usually open lots of webpages at once so iphone 4 on that usually got this bug where you can't get the browser to refresh or move away from the opened page if you got ~5 or more "tabs" open.
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2011-06-04
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Originally Posted by tissot
That's the way it should be. I'm on a mobile device, which means I'm on the go, not sitting at my desk working with a few applications all day long.
It does remember pretty much endless number of apps where you left it and it does not slow the device at all.
Though i usually open lots of webpages at once so iphone 4 on that usually got this bug where you can't get the browser to refresh or move away from the opened page if you got ~5 or more "tabs" open.
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2011-06-04
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Originally Posted by tswindell
I guess this also means fresh qt-components for Meego?
As the Harmattan device is still MeeGo Touch based (MTF) there is a high probability it wont have desktop widgets, what it does have, I believe, is the possibility of someone hacking it on later. We'll know more when Nokia release the updates to MTF which should be very soon.
Can we even hope before announcement of device? :P
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2011-06-04
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Originally Posted by geohsia
iPhone multitasks certain "services" that it allows. Such as audio, gps, data access etc. Apps do not multitask the way we are used to on a pc where it is constantly given cpu cycles in full when required. However, most people do not seems to care or can tell the difference as long as it does things they want. (such as IM apps being always logged in, music playing while web browsing etc)
Not being the iPhone expert, isn't the whole thing with iPhone that the apps are essentially closed once you switch to other apps. As long as they turn on quickly and maintain state, does it really matter if they stay on in the background
But I want more. I want things done in real time even when running in the background. I want full control. I want my avi/mkv video to continuously play while I browse the web to at least hear the sound, youtube video within the web browser to stay playing in background while I check another website, an emulator snes rpg game to stay "running" and count time while I do other things etc. Current hardware can easily do all this, but the OS are not made to do this as the developers/decision makers thing we don't want it.
Originally Posted by zymo
Umm. That doesn't make any sense. N900 has a GPU also. A pretty decent one as well. (SGX530) We already can guess that N9/ION has at least OMAP3 and most likely better one than the N900. So it should be at least SGX535 (which is capable of even 1080p playback as shown in Samsung Galaxy Tab 1) and if it's OMAP4, it's SGX540 which is more than enough for 1080p. (as used in LG Optimus 3D) It could also be STE U8500 and in that case, it will come with ARM's Mali-400MP which is also 1080p capable. (SGS2 uses Mali-400MP) Since N8/E7 has HDMI out, it would be really bad looking if Nokia N9 doesn't come with one.
viipottaja @ MR-Forum hinted that the „N9/ION“ will have a GPU. Sounds nice. So there is still hope for a hdmi port! Question is if it’s strong enough to handle 1080p.
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2011-06-04
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Originally Posted by geohsia
i had the lg optimus 2x/speed for 2-3 weeks. When i bought the device i wanted to take a look at android and the ui (it was my first android phone). I have heard a lot about multitasking in andorid, that its "some kind of" ok, that its not real multitasking, and things like that, but i have tried to make my own opinion.
That's the way it should be. I'm on a mobile device, which means I'm on the go, not sitting at my desk working with a few applications all day long.
If they solved that problem would you even care if there wasn't desktop multitasking?
And then, after using it for some time, my things i mostly dislike at android is the way i have to close an app and the way how the (open) apps are presented to me.
Closing apps means pushing the back button (many times) until you are in the main menu/desktop. So its not possible to close a game while you are ingame, without pushing this back button sooo many times...
(N900: 1 click to get into the task manager, another click for each window to close it)
and yes, i am starting more then 1 app or function and want to be able to change between them, to e.g. copy&paste text from an email to the sms window or the editor.
while using the lg speed and opening apps and change between apps i never felt that i was multitasking, it was just something like "close an app, start another app, then close this app to start another app".
and regardin the task manager at android... i thought they would be kidding (the guys talking about multitasking
) if i push the home button longer, i get that... ehm... lets call it "task switcher". Isnt it just a list of the last opened apps!? i mean, i want a task manager where i can see exactly which apps are open and which are already closed (closed!=freezed; closed=free up some ram), really closed.Before N900 i had only symbian phones since 7650 (someone remembers that fat boy? i loved it soooo much, first real smartphone ever
), and the first version symbian better multi tasking abilities then android or ios.I am a N900 User started from day 1, and from that day on i had a very good sleep with my device (like with every device before)
but with the lg speed it wasnt the same feeling, it was just there lying around, but didnt gave that nice mood i get when i have a new gadget...P.S.: in the weeks i used the lg phone i was sometimes in the official german lg blog... i told them what i think about the device (nice hardware, poor and laggy software) and about the multitask abilitys of android... and the guy from the blog told me that android has the best multitasking compare to every other os... so they are still kidding me...
just my 2cts, i need mt i want it, its one of the biggest reasons i love this device and this os so much!!
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2011-06-04
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Originally Posted by Brock
man he dasnt' even now what multitask is lol
P.S.: in the weeks i used the lg phone i was sometimes in the official german lg blog... i told them what i think about the device (nice hardware, poor and laggy software) and about the multitask abilitys of android... and the guy from the blog told me that android has the best multitasking compare to every other os... so they are still kidding me...
just my 2cts, i need mt i want it, its one of the biggest reasons i love this device and this os so much!!
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2011-06-04
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Originally Posted by zymo
i dont need MR to know that it will have a gpu... the gpu in modern smartphone is to speed up not only games (angry bird has no 3d, but the developers said long time ago that they couldnt make angry bird for the n900 if it woudnt have a gpu) , its also needed to speed up the ui.
viipottaja @ MR-Forum hinted that the „N9/ION“ will have a GPU. Sounds nice. So there is still hope for a hdmi port! Question is if it’s strong enough to handle 1080p.
everything else i would like to say has been said by jakiman (thx)
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