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2009-11-26 , 08:01
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#381
Originally Posted by My-Symbian.com View Post

I couldn't care less about scrolling in browser slowing down for a fraction of a second. But I can't stand not having voice dialing on a Nokia phone in 2010. And I *WILL* complain about it in my review.
I would think the review would be more complete and helpful if you added shortcomings that you found and still may not care about
 
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2009-11-26 , 08:02
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#382
Originally Posted by My-Symbian.com View Post
If the iPhone GPU is twice faster than the N900 one as you're saying then how can one expect graphic performance of the N900 to be at the same level as on the 3Gs, especially at over twice higher resolution? Isn't it in such case just PLAINLY IMPOSSIBLE?

So maybe we shouldn't talk about the BUG but about hardware limitation?
Sure I could agree on that, It could very well be hardware. I dont expect the same graphics performance, I expect the iPhone to be better in that regard. But web-browsing or RSS reading is not based on GPU at all, but CPU/software. Since the CPU is the same, all I can guess at is that maemo is the bottleneck. What you give in the carousel you loose in the merry-go-round

Make a more powerful OS but keep same CPU... its gonna be slower =D
 
My-Symbian.com is offline My-Symbian.com
2009-11-26 , 08:05
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#383
@mysymbian
Its good that you don't seem to face issues but then other people are.
Oh, my God. Haven't I said like 10 times or so that I DO ACKNOWLEDGE it? What else am I expected to do? I am Michal Jerz, and not Nokia Corporation. I come here to talk about my experiences. I do not have the power to solve people's problems with their Nokia phones.

They have the issue and they write about it. I don't have the issue and I write about it. Someone comes to this forum and can read that there are some people who have such issue and some who don't. Isn't it how it actually SHOULD BE?

Is this some kind of matrix or what? I spent half of the night on repeating that I see, understand and accept that several people have the problem. But I just don't have it, so I'm really sorry but I just CAN'T complain about it.

WHAT else am I supposed to do?

Send the phone back to Nokia as a protest against OTHER PEOPLE having the issue I don't have?

Oh, gosh.
 

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2009-11-26 , 08:11
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#384
Originally Posted by un-named_user View Post
I would think the review would be more complete and helpful if you added shortcomings that you found and still may not care about
I will mention all shortcomings I found, even if I consider them of little importance.

But I definitely WON'T write about issues I didn't experience at all. If my N900 hasn't "randomly rebooted" even once, then I just WON'T complain about it, because it is my review.

Regarding the "scrolling issue", it's not that I found it but consider it of low importance. I actually don't consider it an issue at all. That's maybe because so far I was using those cr*ppy Symbian phones, mainly of that cr*ppy manufacturer, and not the super-smooth iPhone.... Or maybe I am that little demanding.
 

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2009-11-26 , 08:14
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#385
Relax. I was writing that post while you posted this. Just missed it thats all

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=378

And NO I don't expect you to solve my problems. I was just confused as to what the reasons for differing performances could be HW/FW
 
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2009-11-26 , 08:22
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#386
Originally Posted by un-named_user View Post
Relax. I was writing that post while you posted this. Just missed it thats all

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=378

And NO I don't expect you to solve my problems. I was just confused as to what the reasons for differing performances could be HW/FW
Maybe people reporting performance or stability related issues should mention what is the hardware ID of their devices. There have been quite many different hardware versions of the N900, at least when it comes to protos. But maybe also the final units have different hardware versions.

When you download the N900 flasher and the latest firmware and you unpack the .bin image of the firmware with flasher, you will see that there are separate packages for different hardware buillds and that there are something like TWENTY different hardware builds supported by that firmware, ranging from 2101 to 2020 or so. And there were even more hardware versions before that, for example my prototype was 1501. The final unit is 2101.

Hardware ID can be checked in e.g. /proc/component_version

Maybe it'll turn out that there are some hardware differences between units and that's what causes that some people have problems and others don't?

So maybe the fanatic fanboy's unit simply has different hardware and that's why it is not affected by issues some other people have, and not because he is a fanatic fanboy?
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un-named_user is offline un-named_user
2009-11-26 , 08:31
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#387
Originally Posted by My-Symbian.com View Post
Regarding the "scrolling issue", it's not that I found it but consider it of low importance. I actually don't consider it an issue at all. That's maybe because so far I was using those cr*ppy Symbian phones, mainly of that cr*ppy manufacturer, and not the super-smooth iPhone.... Or maybe I am that little demanding.
Don't push that iphone drivel at me. I don't give a damn about the iphone. Have been with symbian only for the past 6 years and while the web browsing capability and speed is a huge improvement from the past but the experience is still clunky at times(atleast for me).

I'm here to have a constructive discussion with other members and I suggest you keep to the same


PS: can you explain again where the hardware ID is?
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solpete is offline solpete
2009-11-26 , 08:34
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#388
I think people should stop excusing n900 issues with the argument that iPhone also had issues 2 years ago.

I want a flashship device that works reasonably well and at a level of user experience that is on par with other flagship devices _today_. n900 is a mixed bag, perhaps too mixed for my taste. Way more problems than was reported on xda-developers with my HTC device when I bought it.
 
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2009-11-26 , 08:48
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#389
Originally Posted by Megacrazy View Post
Oooops I did it again....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnf31T3A-gI

Here's a video of the RSS App. If you guys think this is how the app should work and that it's perfectly ok...I give up.

- No, there is no need to reflash my phone.
- No there was no audio/video playing in the background
- It's slow as hell when feeds are updating
- Yes, it completely misses swipes with the stylus when it gets really busy
I think you would have a better point if you held your finger on the screen with alot of pressure and scrolled really slow while reading and the screen is unresponsive or jerky. What your doing is flicking the screen really fast, faster than any normal person can read whats going on in the screen. Is there slightly a small problem..yes, is it a big deal in the sense that it would ruin your day to day experience..no.
 
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2009-11-26 , 09:01
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#390
N900 has over twice as many pixels on the screen as iPhone 3GS. Assuming as-smooth scrolling from same processor on heavy-content webpages seems unrealistic to me. Not saying N900 couldn't be optimized (perhaps it can), just saying, to me, the performance and scrolling is very usable and the high-resolution makes viewing web pages and album covers much more useful than on the iPhone/iPod touch.

Certainly there are applications and areas of the operating system that will still need work.

This is not Nokia's flagship phone. The N97 is (not that it is all great). N900 is a developer/mobile computer device. Maemo 6 will be the first flagship...
 

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