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2010-08-24
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#382
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Originally Posted by shady
Tegra2 != OMAP4.
@wmarone ... yes i know, thats why i said its been avail in volume since february 2009. why do you think the tegra2 tablets (A9) are coming out in sept?
TI has only recently started shipping Blaze devkits in May and samples to high volume customers, as a result anything using those chips is probably 6+ months out with volume production only having begun to ramp up.
Nvidia is moving faster due to not having an A8 based chip, instead having a terrible ARM11 based one that no one wants anymore. But then you're subject to Nvidia's fabrication quality
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2010-08-24
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#383
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tegra 2 == ARM Cortex-A9 MPCore.
tegra == ARM11
tegra == ARM11
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2010-08-24
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#384
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Originally Posted by shady
Yes, but you're suggesting that Nokia would use an A9 chip in the N9 when they have never shown any signs of using an Nvidia chip in their devices, and their primary vendor has only just begun to ship devkits.
tegra 2 == ARM Cortex-A9 MPCore.
tegra == ARM11
Please attempt to retain continuity between your statements.
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2010-08-24
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#385
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oh boy ... thank you for calling me out on my continuity, when i was merely providing YOU with relevant examples to contradict your statements about the shipping date, and vendors of OMAP4 via A9. which i have said all along has been available since early in 2009. whether the reference system was shipping or not, is not indicative of mass production of a chip introduced over a year earlier. all i want from nokia is a high end device whos performance is higher than what i have currently (clocking an A8 @ 1.15ghz) if *im(euphamistic)* who they are marketing to in the very niche high end segment, then *im* not buying another A8.
humsnapdragonbird is not up to par, without discrete co processors. so that leaves the current gen arm proc. its not like im asking for the ARM Eagle ... cmon, im just saying that IF tegra2 is ready for the big show (who knows with how the tegra launched) then omap4 cannot, by extension be that far off. if they merely market it as a 1gz A8 then what incentive do many on this board have to pay 500$ for something they can have already for a much lower price?
nokia is aware of the overclocking, and it being one of the largest threads on this site. it seems redundant to paint a new chasis and sell it to the same ppl ... thats whats what im trying to say. is that it needs to be a full quantified upgrade from the reference board up to the storage and OS.
humsnapdragonbird is not up to par, without discrete co processors. so that leaves the current gen arm proc. its not like im asking for the ARM Eagle ... cmon, im just saying that IF tegra2 is ready for the big show (who knows with how the tegra launched) then omap4 cannot, by extension be that far off. if they merely market it as a 1gz A8 then what incentive do many on this board have to pay 500$ for something they can have already for a much lower price?
nokia is aware of the overclocking, and it being one of the largest threads on this site. it seems redundant to paint a new chasis and sell it to the same ppl ... thats whats what im trying to say. is that it needs to be a full quantified upgrade from the reference board up to the storage and OS.
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2010-08-25
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#386
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A Cortex A8 manufactured in 45nm, clocked at 1GHZ is far for efficient than a Cortex A8 manufactured in 65nm clocked at 1.15GHZ.
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2010-08-25
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Originally Posted by zehjotkah
Not to mention a cpu with a factory clock of 1 GHz will be more likely able to be overclocked to, say, 1.5 GHz or more.
A Cortex A8 manufactured in 45nm, clocked at 1GHZ is far for efficient than a Cortex A8 manufactured in 65nm clocked at 1.15GHZ.
Originally Posted by shady
If the fact that a cpu can be overclocked to be faster than a newer, maybe more expensive cpu at the factory clock speed is proof that the newer cpu is pointless, why aren't we all still using overclocked Intel 4004s?
...all i want from nokia is a high end device whos performance is higher than what i have currently (clocking an A8 @ 1.15ghz)...
... if they merely market it as a 1gz A8 then what incentive do many on this board have to pay 500$ for something they can have already for a much lower price? ...
nokia is aware of the overclocking, and it being one of the largest threads on this site. it seems redundant to paint a new chasis and sell it to the same ppl ... thats whats what im trying to say. is that it needs to be a full quantified upgrade from the reference board up to the storage and OS.
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2010-08-25
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Originally Posted by zehjotkah
You reckon N900 was never advertised as such then take a look at these links,
The N900 was never the flagship.
It was never advertised as such.
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http://technmarketing.com/cellphone/...iphone-is-not/
http://www.indigo102.com/archives/590
http://brandtao.wordpress.com/2009/0...re-brilliance/
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/nokia/...okia_n900.html
http://nokiamobileblog.com/nokia-n8-...into-oblivion/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...ping-N900.html
These are just a few of the many many that advertised the N900 as a flagship and all the people who thanked you seem to have very short memories ha.
People need to remember the hype that basically conned us.
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2010-08-25
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Originally Posted by abill_uk
The above is what people have been basically saying since the start. It was the blogs and internet who hyped this as Nokia's all super phone to fight against Android, iphone.
You reckon N900 was never advertised as such then take a look at these links,
http://technmarketing.com/cellphone/...iphone-is-not/
http://www.indigo102.com/archives/590
http://brandtao.wordpress.com/2009/0...re-brilliance/
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/nokia/...okia_n900.html
http://nokiamobileblog.com/nokia-n8-...into-oblivion/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...ping-N900.html
These are just a few of the many many that advertised the N900 as a flagship and all the people who thanked you seem to have very short memories ha.
People need to remember the hype that basically conned us.
Nokia said in the N900 announcement that it's 4th step in a 5 step plan and Harmattan was already announced in 2008. Plus we knew Symbian Foundation was going for Qt just like Harmattan was.
N900 was only manufactured in Korean factory(rather than the normal high end combo of Finland + China). The little N900 sold in 2 months compared to something like N97 they still couldn't manage to produce enough of them globally. That should tell something too.
All this doesn't mean N900 could not be called as flagship as flagships don't really even exist like they did before in the N95 time, but it was not meant to be mass production super phone like iphone or Galaxy S etc.
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2010-08-25
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Originally Posted by tissot
Yes we in the know now know this but in the days of the hype it was all too easy for people to think wow this is is the new almighty from Nokia and precisely the reason why the hype on the N9 should be taken with a pinch of salt untill the proof is there ie 6 months after release.
The above is what people have been basically saying since the start. It was the blogs and internet who hyped this as Nokia's all super phone to fight against Android, iphone.
Nokia said in the N900 announcement that it's 4th step in a 5 step plan and Harmattan was already announced in 2008. Plus we knew Symbian Foundation was going for Qt just like Harmattan was.
N900 was only manufactured in Korean factory(rather than the normal high end combo of Finland + China). The little N900 sold in 2 months compared to something like N97 they still couldn't manage to produce enough of them globally. That should tell something too.
All this doesn't mean N900 could not be called as flagship as flagships don't really even exist like they did before in the N95 time, but it was not meant to be mass production super phone. Like iphone or Galaxy S etc.
One of two things will happen.
1) Some sort of constant in a config file.
2) More likely a query to the hardware itself to report the screen size and then that used.
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