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2011-08-12 , 22:52
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Originally Posted by hotnikkelz View Post
Had Nokia finish maemo/meego harmattan whatever, when android had it's 1.6 and adjusted their strategy for the main smarthphone markets like US and UK to offer subsidized phones at different price ranges, they would've been where Android is right now. They were just too slow. Too much red tape.
And the reason we've had to little, too late from Maemo/Meego over the years...
Is because it wasn't given the majority of the focus/funding until far too late (approx Q1 2010 IIRC).
Symbian kept prosecuting the case for it's relevance (rightly or wrongly so) to Maemo's detriment.
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2011-08-12 , 23:06
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I think that N9 is a buggy device and cant compete in the good old USA market
 
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2011-08-12 , 23:24
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@keflex
Ah, I see. However, iphone is the exception for a reason. There was absolutely no reason why Nokia, could not have done what iphone has done. I personally blame it on a king's arrogance. Arrogance led Nokia to this predicament.

@jalyst
Yeah, that was Nokia's arrogance again. We're on top, we can take our time and do whatever we want when we want. iPhone? bah, noone wants that, we are Nokia, we are god. Holy ****, iphone is selling we should probably try this touch screen thing hmm....android...nah we're still good, we are nokia. Then it was like damn we need to speed up this qt business. Holy ****, so much tape, damnit.

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You're a funny troll i like u. Cod3rror > you though.
 

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2011-08-12 , 23:25
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Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! View Post
I think that N9 is a buggy device and cant compete in the good old USA market
Bit premature to claim it's buggy full-stop don't you think?
Or is it just that you really want it to be buggy, through some misguided allegiance toward one camp or another?
 

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2011-08-12 , 23:27
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http://mynokiablog.com/2011/08/13/no...a-at-expansys/
 

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2011-08-12 , 23:34
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Originally Posted by jalyst View Post
Sorry, but I still can't agree with that logic.
If you don't buy a N9 (even if you like it) just to teach Nokia a lesson.
Then you are validating management's decisions.
Because as we all know... So many things they've done/planned.
Have directly/indirectly dramatically impacted N9's chances.

Anyway it comes down to if you like the device overall once the comparos are done.
That's when I'll make my final decision...
I'm not going to buy or not buy it purely as a political gesture.
I think you missed my point about not buying ANYTHING Nokia (not just the N9) as a better way to make a point about how he's managing the company. If they suffer as a result of him, they're far more likely to drop him like a rock and you're less likely to prove him right (which the N9 never will, given it's not even being produced in enough quantity to "prove him wrong" anyway).

It's not political. It's simply a matter of economics. Why waste money on a lose-lose proposition to end up sitting on a dead-end, unwarrantied, unsupported NEW product?

Originally Posted by hotnikkelz View Post
The VKB is at worse average. That is not the issue. It's not being released in certain areas NOT because of the incompetence of the device (which we have not heard of mind you) but because Elop basically KILLED the thought of long term support with his statements.
So yeah why would the biggest smartphone markets wanna buy a device after Elop said things like
'Meego is experimental'
'Meego isn't ready, it won't be till 2013 so we went WP7'
'n9 is going to be the only meego device'
'we're cutting Meego expenditure DRASTICALLY, and shift most of our resources to make sure wp7 doesn't fail'
Is the VKB open-source? At worse, CAN you at least replace the VKB with a replacement? If SOME people like it, great--keep it. If not, can you at least get something you're far more comfortable with or replace the closed-source one with an open-source one that CAN be improved? I know that, at least on Android, there's a default keyboard but you can replace it easily... and many people really love Swype as their on-screen keyboard (myself included!). Can this also be done on the N9?

Originally Posted by BwackNinja View Post
The kind of people who are frequenting the internet for news about new devices that haven't come out yet like the N9.
But--the title of this thread...!! It's HERE already!!

Originally Posted by Cue View Post
checked already, but your patronising tone is only showing your lack of intelligence in your bid to dispute a simple point. If Win 6.5 is atophying by which I assume you mean atrophying then they are buying other phones, not WP7. It's that simple, it's a marketshare, this is not a hard concept to understand.
I think the phrase you're looking for to make your point is: "diminishing brand loyalty." Microsoft and Nokia have this in common right now.

Originally Posted by keflex View Post
But we haven't got at the core of why they are choosing alternate OS'. I would think there's two real factors at play:

- Lack of carrier support/support from salespeople within carrier stores
- Lack of new devices

Do either of those show great macromanagement on behalf of Microsoft? Not really. But they do mean that it's probably not really worth rating the sales data until Mango comes along with new devices in tow and bridges the service gap that currently exists between WP7 & its competitors. How was Android's first year again?

Honestly son the door is right there, if you want to walk through it at any time I won't laugh too hard.
Need I remind you that Microsoft is hardly in their first year of writing a mobile OS for phones? Even if this is a re-write, you couldn't possibly compare that to the HTC G1's release on T-Mobile as being equatable? Didn't Microsoft also wage this same fight for a couple of decades against Palm as well.. and even when Palm was dying out, Microsoft STILL came out a loser in the end. People were getting tired of buying or checking out Microsoft's shoddy experiences on mobile and it's still left an incredibly bitter taste. The newest offering still manages to, so far, leave people unimpressed in a sea of competitors that Microsoft must now contend with. In this sea, Nokia has tragically hitched itself up with the most damaged ship it would find.

Originally Posted by keflex View Post
No, that's the reason Symbian failed in the past. The reason it is still failing is because of the aged UI design and the "underpowering" of flagship devices (we all know this is because Symbian doesn't need a particularly speedy CPU to perform well, but the general public don't).

The board didn't "panic", they responded to a quick drop in marketshare in Q4 2010 that looked like it had no sign of stopping. They took stock of all their options and WP7 is where they arrived. You have no insight into their decision-making process and neither do I, so we can't say HOW they came to this conclusion. However I'm willing to bet they didn't just go Leon on the situation

WAKE UP

TIME TO DIE

Seriously, most people in the world have more common sense than you do. You should probably try and remember that.
If that's true, they're not interested in EITHER Windows Phone 7 nor Maemo/MeeGo. Not that I liked it myself, they DID seem pretty happy with Symbian, since we're talking all about market share.
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2011-08-12 , 23:40
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Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! View Post
I think that N9 is a buggy device and cant compete in the good old USA market
USA market is not good enough for jewel like N9...
 

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USA market is not good enough for jewel like N9...
Agreed...... & i live in the US
 

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Originally Posted by catbus View Post
USA market is not good enough for jewel like N9...
And it'll remain buried so long as Elop continues to turd up its polish and burying it half-way up his lower intestine, plugged up in there by his buried head.

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Even if this is a re-write
Good job on nullifying your first sentence.

you couldn't possibly compare that to the HTC G1's release on T-Mobile as being equatable?
By the end of its first year, Android had 6 handsets in the US across 2 carriers; WP7 has 7 handsets across 4 carriers. Not completely balanced but more than you allege it to be.

The newest offering still manages to, so far, leave people unimpressed in a sea of competitors that Microsoft must now contend with.
Actually, WP7 has very high levels of satisfaction amongst its users. Much like everyone else here, you are a victim of your own hyperbole.
 
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