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2015-06-18
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Sell it? I think I'd short it!
I wonder what company next will he destroy. Boston Chicken, Macromedia and Nokia were all his victims.
Wherever he lands, if I have stock in that company, I'm selling it immediately.
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2015-06-18
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Originally Posted by Dave999
Hmm. Let's see... In the early 90's, Apple had:
well...at the time apple was nothing like nokia and it was nothing compared to the boost of the smartphone segment kicking off big time...
* The Apple ][+ line of personal computers, running Apple DOS. Once the most popular brand of PC, but now out of date mainly due to the aging non-graphical UI.
* The fresh new Mac line of computers, with an OS that featured a beautiful new GUI.
* PC hardware manufactured specifically to run these OSs; there were never any authorized Apple "clones".
* A large (but quickly dwindling) reserve of cash, and a large (but quickly dwindling) share of the market.
What they were up against:
* A company that produced only an OS, and licensed it out to hardware manufacturers.
* Competing hardware that was both cheaper and more powerful than the devices Apple could produce.
Sounds awfully similar to me. The only difference here being that Nokia would also have had to compete with Apple's boutique iPhone, as well as Google's commoditized Android.
But yeah, the thing here is that Apple chose to compete in the face of adversity, rather than capitulate...
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2015-06-18
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well. If you think it was a simular situation. feel free to do so. I dont. its not even relevent to the thread or discussion .
also. apple is one one of a kind...just imagine how many that fails to turn a sinking ship back surface and fly it to moon. must be 1 in a billion to do an apple
also. apple is one one of a kind...just imagine how many that fails to turn a sinking ship back surface and fly it to moon. must be 1 in a billion to do an apple
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2015-06-18
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Originally Posted by Copernicus
I was reading this and all the way up to the bold line, I thought you were talking about Commodore.
Hmm. I seem to recall a similar situation in the '90s, when a popular maker of consumer electronics was facing total destruction against a rising competitor. They had a similar combination of a popular but graying line of products, and a newer, flashier, but (at that point) uncompetitive line. Their choice?
They went with option #1. For years (at least five years, I would say) they held the line, and indeed bled money and laid off lots of folks. They dropped the old line of products and doubled down on the new one, experimenting with many different (and ultimately failed) permutations, until finally they were able to hire a manager who turned things around.
This company, of course, was Apple...
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2015-06-18
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Originally Posted by gerbick
It's a real pity he didn't get the top job at Microsoft.
I wonder what company next will he destroy. Boston Chicken, Macromedia and Nokia were all his victims.
Wherever he lands, if I have stock in that company, I'm selling it immediately.
Nadella is not exhibiting any of Elop's special skills so far.
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2015-06-18
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Originally Posted by aegis
Nah, he should definitely go to google.
It's a real pity he didn't get the top job at Microsoft.
Nadella is not exhibiting any of Elop's special skills so far.
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2015-06-18
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Originally Posted by pichlo
True. Unfortunately, Commodore did not manage to turn things around. I think they did a better job trying to hang on than Atari did, but yeah, I guess sometimes just having the spirit to compete isn't enough.
I was reading this and all the way up to the bold line, I thought you were talking about Commodore.
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2015-06-18
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“The higher up you go the more mistakes you’re allowed. Right at the top, if you make enough of them, it’s considered your style.” - Fred Astaire
The above applies to CEOs as much as it does to dancers.
I'm CEOing in the rain,
Just CEOing in the rain,
What a glorious feeling,
I can destroy a company, again.
No matter what mistakes I make,
I get a golden handshake,
I'm CEOing, CEOing in the rain.
The above applies to CEOs as much as it does to dancers.
I'm CEOing in the rain,
Just CEOing in the rain,
What a glorious feeling,
I can destroy a company, again.
No matter what mistakes I make,
I get a golden handshake,
I'm CEOing, CEOing in the rain.
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