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2016-01-02
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#32
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Originally Posted by t-b
But the Pandora/Pyra people really do seem to be able to make these devices.
Haha - great idea and good luck trying to convince the rest of the world
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2016-01-02
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Originally Posted by rcolistete
Why haven't we seen Portable Raspberry devices yet, then (I know people have posted howtos about making your own, but I've not seen a commercial product offering a Raspberry xx with touchscreen, battery and reasonable [12 hour minimum] battery life). I don't see the Pi Zero as a real game-changer, because the older Raspberry devices are already cheap relative to adding a good touchscreen and battery. I've heard that all the Raspberries just suck too much power to make a decent portable device. Am I wrong about that?
I bet that in 2016 new devices will appear with Raspberry Pi Zero (US$5, 512KB of RAM, almost impossible to buy until now) inside. At least in Indiegogo/Kickstarter. Like some pocket computer with keyboard, tablet in different screen sizes, etc.
Also, 512MB of RAM just isn't enough of an upgrade from the n900 to be very attractive.
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2016-01-02
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#34
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Originally Posted by Copernicus
I can do almost all the maintenance on my bike using a Swiss army knife or multi tool. But, I'd rather use the full sized tools I have in my garage.
RIGHT! This is the thing: it is intuitively obvious that one does not compile code on a smartphone. Why is this? Because a smartphone is not a computer.
Walled gardens don't come in to it.
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2016-01-02
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Originally Posted by t-b
It worked well for the n8x0's ...just pair them with your phone.
Haha - great idea and good luck trying to convince the rest of the world
Utilizing the connectivity of the phone without the nightmare of integrating cell tech into the n8x0.
Letting the n8x0 do what it does well...
and the phone do what it does well...
Convincing the world this is the way to go...
well that hasn't happened ever with maemo..
and I don't think ever will.
But It is a very smart and sane approach for budget-minded hacker device projects ...
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Owner of :
1-n770 (in retirement), 3-n800's / 3-n810's (still in daily use), 5-n900's ((3 are flawless, 1 loose usb ( parts), 1 has no telephony (parts))
3-nexus 5's : 1 w/ Floko Pie 9.1 (running beautifully) waiting for Stable Droid 10 rom, 1 w/ ̶Ubuntu Touch, 1 with Maru OS (intend maemo leste when ready)
1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.
PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
Meateo balloons now available @ Dave999's Meateo Emporium
Lurker since 2007, Member since 2013, Certifiable since 1972
Owner of :
1-n770 (in retirement), 3-n800's / 3-n810's (still in daily use), 5-n900's ((3 are flawless, 1 loose usb ( parts), 1 has no telephony (parts))
3-nexus 5's : 1 w/ Floko Pie 9.1 (running beautifully) waiting for Stable Droid 10 rom, 1 w/ ̶Ubuntu Touch, 1 with Maru OS (intend maemo leste when ready)
1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.
PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
Meateo balloons now available @ Dave999's Meateo Emporium
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2016-01-02
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#36
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Originally Posted by aegis
I can do almost all the maintenance on my bike using a Swiss army knife or multi tool. But, I'd rather use the full sized tools I have in my garage.
My brother purchased a full-sized Windows desktop tower machine last year. I had him open it up for me recently, and we were rather surprised to see a tiny micro-ATX motherboard in the case, surrounded by lots and lots of empty space...A computer doesn't need to be physically large in order to do decent work.
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2016-01-02
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#37
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actually ..
got mah nokia bh-104 paired to mah n900 for handsfree calls...
and my n900 paired to one of my n810's...
dash mounted in my truck so I have the larger screen for maps...
(sure the n810 doesn't have nice mapping compared to ...whatever..but still...it's on a bigger screen 4.3" ...and it's maemo...)
got mah nokia bh-104 paired to mah n900 for handsfree calls...
and my n900 paired to one of my n810's...
dash mounted in my truck so I have the larger screen for maps...
(sure the n810 doesn't have nice mapping compared to ...whatever..but still...it's on a bigger screen 4.3" ...and it's maemo...)
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Owner of :
1-n770 (in retirement), 3-n800's / 3-n810's (still in daily use), 5-n900's ((3 are flawless, 1 loose usb ( parts), 1 has no telephony (parts))
3-nexus 5's : 1 w/ Floko Pie 9.1 (running beautifully) waiting for Stable Droid 10 rom, 1 w/ ̶Ubuntu Touch, 1 with Maru OS (intend maemo leste when ready)
1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.
PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
Meateo balloons now available @ Dave999's Meateo Emporium
Lurker since 2007, Member since 2013, Certifiable since 1972
Owner of :
1-n770 (in retirement), 3-n800's / 3-n810's (still in daily use), 5-n900's ((3 are flawless, 1 loose usb ( parts), 1 has no telephony (parts))
3-nexus 5's : 1 w/ Floko Pie 9.1 (running beautifully) waiting for Stable Droid 10 rom, 1 w/ ̶Ubuntu Touch, 1 with Maru OS (intend maemo leste when ready)
1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.
PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
Meateo balloons now available @ Dave999's Meateo Emporium
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2016-01-02
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Originally Posted by Ken-Young
Raspberry Pi Zero and CHIP (http://getchip.com/) are a lot smaller and cheaper than Raspberry A+/B+/2B. So I bet the community will develop new decides around them in 2016.
Why haven't we seen Portable Raspberry devices yet, then (I know people have posted howtos about making your own, but I've not seen a commercial product offering a Raspberry xx with touchscreen, battery and reasonable [12 hour minimum] battery life). I don't see the Pi Zero as a real game-changer, because the older Raspberry devices are already cheap relative to adding a good touchscreen and battery. I've heard that all the Raspberries just suck too much power to make a decent portable device. Am I wrong about that?
Also, 512MB of RAM just isn't enough of an upgrade from the n900 to be very attractive.
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Integral, Derivative, Limit - calculating mathematical integrals, derivatives and limits. SymPy - Computer Algebra System.
MatPlotLib - 2D & 3D plots in Python. IPython - Python interactive shell.
-- My blog about mobile & scientific computing ---
Sailfish : Sony Xperia X, Gemini, Jolla, Jolla C, Jolla Tablet, Nexus 4. Nokia N9, N900, N810.
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2016-01-02
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For Raspberry Pi, what about a display 5.0" 800×480 Resistive LCD Touch HDMI+GPIO for US$25 ?
Here more screenshots and details, from WaveShare. You can buy a case with or without the display.
A Raspberry Pi Zero would be a lot more portable.
So, US$5 for RPi Zero + US$25 (5.0" display) + US$5.79 (for the case). Add a good battery, WiFi USB, microSD card (for Raspbian, etc), a backside case (3D printed), voilá, you have a full Gnu/Linux tablet costing less than US$100.
I bet it is a matter of time (some months) to somebody offering this type of RPi/CHIP tablet ready for end users. Like them but thinner :
https://learn.adafruit.com/7-portable-raspberry-pi-multitouch-tablet/
http://makezine.com/2014/01/07/how-i...rry-pi-tablet/
Last edited by rcolistete; 2016-01-02 at 02:08.
Here more screenshots and details, from WaveShare. You can buy a case with or without the display.
A Raspberry Pi Zero would be a lot more portable.
So, US$5 for RPi Zero + US$25 (5.0" display) + US$5.79 (for the case). Add a good battery, WiFi USB, microSD card (for Raspbian, etc), a backside case (3D printed), voilá, you have a full Gnu/Linux tablet costing less than US$100.
I bet it is a matter of time (some months) to somebody offering this type of RPi/CHIP tablet ready for end users. Like them but thinner :
https://learn.adafruit.com/7-portable-raspberry-pi-multitouch-tablet/
http://makezine.com/2014/01/07/how-i...rry-pi-tablet/
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Python, C/C++, Qt and CAS developer. For Maemo/MeeGo/Sailfish :
Integral, Derivative, Limit - calculating mathematical integrals, derivatives and limits. SymPy - Computer Algebra System.
MatPlotLib - 2D & 3D plots in Python. IPython - Python interactive shell.
-- My blog about mobile & scientific computing ---
Sailfish : Sony Xperia X, Gemini, Jolla, Jolla C, Jolla Tablet, Nexus 4. Nokia N9, N900, N810.
Python, C/C++, Qt and CAS developer. For Maemo/MeeGo/Sailfish :
Integral, Derivative, Limit - calculating mathematical integrals, derivatives and limits. SymPy - Computer Algebra System.
MatPlotLib - 2D & 3D plots in Python. IPython - Python interactive shell.
-- My blog about mobile & scientific computing ---
Sailfish : Sony Xperia X, Gemini, Jolla, Jolla C, Jolla Tablet, Nexus 4. Nokia N9, N900, N810.
Last edited by rcolistete; 2016-01-02 at 02:08.
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2016-01-02
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Originally Posted by endsormeans
Yes. I know people here tend to poo-poo the iPhone, but the iPhone changed everything. Before the IBM PC, there was a period of great diversity in hobbyist personal computers. Wonderful things like the Amiga appeared. You could buy bizarre computers with Z80 and 6800 CPUs on the same board, which would allow you to run software for different architectures on a single machine without emulation. All that stopped when the IBM PC appeared. Nokia's tablets date back to a similarly inchoate period for smartphones. The iPhone ended the period of radical experimentation. Microsoft, Blackberry, Jolla et al. are trying to build something just like an iPhone, with a different underlying OS, which is silly, pointless and doomed. For the foreseeable future, Apple will have the market for high end, high margin iPhones, and a hundred different manufacturers will make lower-end "iPhones" with Android technology. The N900 is like the Amiga - something nerds will still be talking about fondly 15 years from now, causing all normal people to roll their eyes and try to change the subject.
It worked well for the n8x0's ...just pair them with your phone.
Utilizing the connectivity of the phone without the nightmare of integrating cell tech into the n8x0.
Letting the n8x0 do what it does well...
and the phone do what it does well...
Convincing the world this is the way to go...
well that hasn't happened ever with maemo..
and I don't think ever will.
But It is a very smart and sane approach for budget-minded hacker device projects ...
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Integral, Derivative, Limit - calculating mathematical integrals, derivatives and limits. SymPy - Computer Algebra System.
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-- My blog about mobile & scientific computing ---
Sailfish : Sony Xperia X, Gemini, Jolla, Jolla C, Jolla Tablet, Nexus 4. Nokia N9, N900, N810.