There's a lot of nice things about blackberry 10, certainly more mature and stable than Sailfish but I prefer a more open OS. They deserve to be more popular as they are very strong on many technical areas and are friendly to people writing apps just not for me because the OS is more closed than Android or Sailfish.

I would buy a Jolla phone if they sold in the United States, but they don't not even as an import and even if I could get one it wouldn't necessarily support US HSPA+ or LTE bands. Plus the Jolla phone has inferior specs to any BlackBerry device despite costing more. The Jolla tablet doesn't interest me because it lacks features I use on a tablet and I already have a Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 that I am satisfied with. I don't need a physical keyboard on a phone, but is a feature I like to have and the TOH keyboard will take a while to get to market where as BlackBerry has devices today with great keyboards. Overall BlackBerry offers a better hardware and software package and one that can be easily purchased in North America.

Ain't that the f_ckin' truth!

which OS is 'more' open jolla's OS or BB's OS?
ie, develop for, side loading, etc

Which is more GNU/linux like?

another milestone reached. BlackBerry classic is now out of stock in North America. Seems like they received more pre-orders than they thought they will receive.
http://m.crackberry.com/blackberry-c...-north-america

Sailfish is more open than Blackberry OS. Sailfish is a Linux distro. Blackberry 10 is QNX based.
Blackberry is friendly to side loading like Sailfish so is not unfriendly to you writing applications.
Just the OS itself has more closed components. That is not to say Sailfish is 100% open source.
Blackbery does have some git repos to look at open source pieces.
https://blackberry.github.io/
and let you look at say open browser components
http://us.blackberry.com/software/sm...omponents.html

Sailfish is built on Mer and Nemo which you may jump in and help improve. Lipstick and a few other components are closed, however you may replace the proprietary GUI. You cannot do that in Blackberry.

Blackberry is a great deal more mature than Sailfish and has a larger company behind it along with greater availability but more of the OS is closed. Unlike Apple iOS they are friendly to you writing applications and sideloading.

Of course this is leaving out Android and Ubuntu Touch.

BlackBerry is more GNU-like, because it uses micro-kernel design.
Being closed-source is unfortunate, though.

Best wishes.

This needed to be inserted at some point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dmhF1rqaZk
A Ronnie Corbett segment referencing Blackberry.

Nice to see a fair discussion about this subject. BB10 also has its shortcomings (like the inability to turn off Blackberry Messenger) but is surely a more mature OS - and a very nice one too. Having used it for a few days, I might get one as a secondary device to my Jolla one day (hardware keyboards rock ), but I still prefer openness, so I'd choose Linux distro over BB10 every time (note that I'm not considering Android a Linux distro) . But I totally respect people that have different priorities.

Why I joined the discussion:
Just to fix this...
https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick
https://github.com/nemomobile/lipsti...r/LICENSE.LGPL

LGPL doesn't seem closed to me, not sure where this misconception is coming from.