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The Misconception

Well, this is a huge problem with misconception. People who are not familiar with the background of the tablet series are going to make assumptions about it based on what they are more familiar with. And many times this will be based on a smartphone since that is all the craze because of the iPhone, BlackBerry, HTC's smartphones, Nokia's smartphones, and so on. They jump to that conclusion because they generalize that if it has a certain grouping of features then it must be the same. It must be a smartphone or a phone. But the general audience who are not as technically savvy will many times not care with trivial differences and not care about the history. Maybe because it is boring or because it is too complicated.

The Intention

I think the most important thing is to think about what the intention and approach was. I believe that it is a mobile (tablet) computer because of its lineage from the n### series. In one of the interviews of Ari Jaaksi he mentions that this is an internet centric device. Given that it is a internet centric device and not one that focuses on cell phone capabilities, I wonder if when putting the cellular radio into the device that their main purpose was to use it for the data EDGE/3G/and so on capabilities and the voice capabilities last in order to extend the internet centricity. This is important especially if you cannot get wifi which is similar to how the Booklet 3G can utilize 3G data. The voice capabilities sound more like an afterthought at this point? (So it is a tablet mobile computer with internet centricity--their focus, but it is also a phone--not their main focus. It's many things.)

Part of this goes back to what chemist said.

The Mistake

Nokia's mistake is with thinking that people are going to keep these granular differences separate and that people not familiar with the N### history are not going to see that it came from an internet tablet mobile computer. Hence it is a mobile computer first and phone second or last. Looking at a few definitions of smartphone, if you look carefully you can see that many of them say a mobile phone with extensions or capabilities of PC-like features. Notice how the direction changes compared to how the N900 is described by others as a mobile computer first with cell phone extensions.

I wonder like others do why it is listed under find phones rather than on its own page. I can only guess that it could either be a mistake or it could be intentional in order to sell more devices. If someone is looking for a phone first and a certain PC-like feature second and they are indifferent to all else then from a business standpoint you are going to want that person to get the more expensive device, but those are words from a sales point of view.

Conclusion

This is a very esoteric market much like tablet computers were when I first bought my Toshiba tablet notebook in its early years. It is esoteric because of its features, its dimensions, the hardware, and software. In my opinion the N900 treads on many of these areas and markets, but very lightly. In the end they satisfy the minority rather than the majority. If Nokia wants to make this device mass market quickly they would need to bring in the best parts of the other worlds in order to extend their acceptance to a broader audience. But for now I think we are wasting our time debating about labels instead of helping improve the device and product line and supporting Nokia with good feedback if we, the few, think this device has potential in other people's lives.

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Call it whatever you want, Nokia has something here, and IMHO its just going to get better and better. This is the honeymoon remember of tablet and phone, bringing them together in holy matrimony. We'll see how the kids grow up in the future. N920 the first born.
 
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Originally Posted by olighak View Post
If you compare maemo 5, in its current version, to for example Symbian S60.3rd. (where I come from) the changeable settings and options are much fewer.

I think the N900 is awesome. But I am truly hoping Nokia has some sweaty programmes adding the "missing basic functions" to the N900.
I wouldn't hold such hopes.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=33551

Check it out. Also the original portrait thread. It is highly revealing about how Nokia's Maemo team thinks.
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Originally Posted by Diavoli View Post
Call it whatever you want, Nokia has something here, and IMHO its just going to get better and better. This is the honeymoon remember of tablet and phone, bringing them together in holy matrimony. We'll see how the kids grow up in the future. N920 the first born.
Agreed. Nokia has something different here. That's what is exciting about the N900 and the Maemo. But it is not ready for mainstream yet! This is for the devs and tech-heads.

And browsing around in Maemo on the N900 just looks so damn gorgeous... and iPhone has got nothing on this with it's low-res screen and limitations as far as mobile computer goes.
 
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Do most people who buy the N900 intend to keep a second "real" phone with them at all times? If the answer is no, and most owners will rely on the N900 as the only mobile phone they carry, then it's a phone.
 
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Originally Posted by ymb View Post
Humm, I must "be doing it wrong", as I am not seing text being highlighted if i "swipe from left".
Got any pointers for videos/longer explanations of this "manipulation mode"?
Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUCc2C4JPJE

Watch from 2:00 +
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Originally Posted by chemist View Post
putting a GSM card into my computer does not make it a phone not even if its my netbook, the device is an internet tablet and the gsm/umts module is supposed to give you the possibility to stay connected. nokia is calling it a phone... they could call it else. but they want to show that the new NIT has phone capabilities.

I can do phone calls with my netbook does that make it become a phone now? no its a computer with phone capability, true the form factor is telling it is a phone and its hitting off in that direction but the n900 is still a test device and remains more an IT than it becomes a phone. the future devices will leave the phone not out but loose focus as it isnt a primary tool anymore its more like a base function.
first phones where used to call someone not to send emails browse the web and edit PDFs. The device landscape is refurbishing. my current phone is a walkman first a phone second, and that changes every day, the goals and needs of such a "phone" is not being a "phone" anymore its to become a full blown computer in your pocket. helping you to do your work faster better or what else or give you fun joy and so on... kids dont want phones to call someone they want text with friends share videos and pictures go online.

call it what ever you want it to be but keep in mind that phone functionality, in this case cellphone, does not come at first its more at last. so for you its a phone and you expect all phone features. you got contacts, make calls and receive calls! there is your cellphone functionality! its not ment to be a business device yet so this kind of stuff will come later on. its the last try to get to know problems of hardware and software combination before they start to build step 5 of 5. and its a nice way because the community gets the chance to request and support stuff nokia wasnt thinking about yet. most of it has close to nothing to do with cellphones anymore.
Pretty much what I think. The phone functionality in the n900 is an afterthought (as evident by Nokia's handling themselves, heck the thing lacks basic phone things like assignable ringtones per contacts). It's the tablet's heritage in the n900 that is at the forefront with the n900 and Maemo which is why I consider it a mobile computer (like MIDs) first, a phone second.

If you take away the cellular voice capability, which they probably only added because they were already adding a chip that could do celluar data so you could use the internet anywhere instead of relying on tethering and wireless points, then you just have the next internet tablet from Nokia.
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Do most people who buy the N900 intend to keep a second "real" phone with them at all times? If the answer is no, and most owners will rely on the N900 as the only mobile phone they carry, then it's a phone.
I carry two phones: Work phone, private phone. I plan to replace one of them. As a phone.
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Originally Posted by jaysire View Post
Do most people who buy the N900 intend to keep a second "real" phone with them at all times? If the answer is no, and most owners will rely on the N900 as the only mobile phone they carry, then it's a phone.
I do! This isn't replacing my Blackberry (which is really a phone I use for work and occasional personal use). Its replacing a netbook for me. I'm not even going to hook voice or text services up on it. Only data. Totally a pocket computer / internet tablet to me, and I'll be quick to correct people I meet "on thde street" that refer to it as a phone.
 
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Originally Posted by chemist View Post
putting a GSM card into my computer does not make it a phone not even if its my netbook, the device is an internet tablet and the gsm/umts module is supposed to give you the possibility to stay connected.
How about sticking speaker and microphone to the opposite ends of your computer for holding your computer to your ear and mouth? Because that is what N900 has...
 
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